Hi, I working on a taxonomy focusing on asset management aggregation. CDMI is well on its way identifying a class of assets and a taxonomy for describing policies pertaining to deployment strategies. OVF, can be considered a XML representation of a DMFT CIM profile. This is important positioning statement maturing OGF/DMTF integration. However, OVF is only an XML interchange format for VM deployments. A paper on synergies between OCCI/CDMI/OVF is may be a little weak at this point, especially since there is no commitment from the DMTF of moving forward with this initiative. I have released a presentation on bonding OVF to CDMI, I had also placed one of my developers working on the implementation part time in April. The presentation was posted on the OCCI mailing list a few weeks ago. It included a mapping of OVF elements to OCCI resources as well as a list of unreconciled issues pertaining to incongruous behavioral models. There are several unresolved issues I had wanted to get addressed in Boulder, but exploring OGF/DMTF logistics, alignment of use cases, fit into road maps and DMTF jockeying for meaningless political control of activities, interfered with any practical progress on the implementation. BTW, please exclude Winston Bumpus from any statements about the DMTF, Winston is always the most gracious. Just as a matter of historical record, the discussion of bringing OVF into the OCCI offering started over a year ago last year between Mark Carlson and myself. Although there had been some preliminary discussions in the OCCI working group, the meeting with Mark Carlson resulted in me committing any excess AlloyCloud funding towards that goal. One major issue inhibiting progress was the state of the OCCI specifications. I'll restart work on the OVF project as funding/resources becomes available. I hope to have a working OVF implementation as a well as a new c++ OCCI code and CDMI support in OpenNebula by the end of this year. Back to DCI-Fed We can take a few strategies for use cases: 1) Develop our own... 2) Leverage use cases referenced in other intiatives and stds we are considering for inclusion in DCI-Fed 3) Refer to documented best practice white papers and case studies. Before we jump in with two feet and having all oars driving in a direction, we need to have a meeting on vision and outcome, just to make sure we are all on the same page. @Craig, do you have a reference on Vivek's document management pitch ? -gary On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote:
Alex, Gary, et al.,
I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing.
Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list.
--Craig
On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
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