On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 11:51:44 AM PST, Ryan Carboni wrote:

Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...

Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.

Perhaps, but it sure sounds like Evo Morales engaged in a 'slow-motion-coup', trying to get the public to agree to elimination of the term-limits law, and when that failed, get his cronies in the Supreme Court to okay that anyway.  Are people in Bolivia not allowed to object to that manipulation and corruption?  Can they not act to take that fraudster out of office, lest it be labelled a "coup"?               Jim Bell

On 2019-11-13 05:49, Ryan Carboni wrote:

Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...

Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.

Morales used violence to "win" an election, electing him for an unconstitutional fourth term. He then used violence against legislators and government officials. The army therefore had to threaten him with horizontal removal. The army is now ensuring that the letter and spirit of the constitution is being followed to hold new elections. Which elections strike me as likely to result in more of the same, since too much is up for grabs for people to follow the rules, and too many people on all sides have broken the rules. Also people are voting their tribe, faith and ethnicity, which apt to end in tribal war. We are already seeing this stuff in USA, with the deep state illegally tapping Trump's phone and fabricating evidence against him, and the governor of a Democratic party state sending thugs to break up a Trump rally, and police to protect those thugs against rally security (fed cops and rentacops), which tactics are bringing us closer in the US to political outcomes being resolved by security forces. We got rather close to a fight between rally security and anti rally security. As the 2020 election draws closer, and if Trump starts draining the swamp, we are likely to see such battles. This is likely to result in a contested election, with the outcome being resolved by whether Trump manages to arrest the Democratic candidate for quid pro quo (Plenty of Biden quid pro quo, notably him pulling the Ukraine prosecutor off investigating his son, and him collecting billions while negotiating a mysteriously terrible trade deal with China) or Trump gets arrested for quid pro quo. Democrats committed no end of arguably illegal acts when they thought that they would be in power forever, and if Trump drains the swamp, which he has ample legal grounds to do, he is likely to get through a constitutional amendment allowing him to exceed term limits, which amendment the Democrats will protest was not legally passed, and we will find ourselves in the same Bolivian situation - too much up for grabs for people to accept election outcomes, and security forces playing an ever increasing role in elections.