New subject: cpunks forwarding ?? - [wayward4now@gmail.com: Re: New Mexico Solar observatory evacuated by FBI, under lockdown/control until further notice, Blackhawk chopper, antenna work crew + no observable threat [PEACE]]

14 Sep 2018

      I figured this out easily: The problem is that Ric's address, wayward4now@gmail.com, is not subscribed to the list.  
  Ric, subscribe here: https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo

The mystery, though, was why Ric didn't get a bounce.  It turns out the list was set to silently discard messages from non-subscribers, rather than reject (i.e., bounce) them.  So, from non-subscribers, this would look like the message was accepted, but it wasn't, and never got posted.

I have now found and changed the setting in Mailman ("generic_nonmember_action" under "Privacy options ... Sender filters").  Such messages will now instead be rejected.  So, people who post from an address that is not subscribed will get a message that the list is for subscribers only.  Certainly this is the expected behavior, rather than messages being accepted and then silently dropped.

It's not immediately clear to me whether I twiddled this setting myself, when we moved the lists, or this was already the setting from the old site when Riad managed the list.  Mea culpa, if I'm the guilty party.  I hope this config change addresses the anomalies that people have spotted recently, with some messages that appeared to be accepted for posting, but never got posted or archived.

Thanks for sending the full headers and other details shortly after the mishap.  That made it very easy to verify that Postfix/postgrey/etc. received the message properly and provided it to Mailman, but then Mailman didn't post it.  

Best regards to all,
  Greg

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 01:05:24PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
...
Hi Greg, again, here's another email from Ric - received two this
morning (AU time) and they don't appear in the list archives.
Is there a forwarding/rejection problem?
TIA,
Zenaan
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Subject: Re: New Mexico Solar observatory evacuated by FBI, under
  lockdown/control until further notice, Blackhawk chopper, antenna work
  crew +
  no observable threat [PEACE]
To: Zenaan Harkness ,
  CypherPunks 
References: <20180913035233.q2r7wwmasnmpibkq@eye.freedbms.net>
From: Ric Moore 
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On 09/12/2018 11:52 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
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Let the conspiracies theories turn to conspiracy fact ASAP - "Shut it
down" in action...
‘Nobody Would Tell Us Anything’: US Solar Observatory Mysteriously
Closed by FBI
https://sputniknews.com/us/201809121067981226-Observatory-Mysteriously-Close...
    The Sunspot Observatory in New Mexico’s Sacramento Mountains has
  been closed since Thursday under a shroud of mystery after the FBI
  evacuated it for reasons they would not explain to local
  authorities.
It's simple. The Aztecs got it right. The Sun, fed up with all the bullshit here
on Earth, decided to talk to us but wasn't interested in some dialog with some
assholes. Of course the FBI went ape and wanted to know who the Sun thought is
was to refuse to negotiate by holding the observatory hostage. Same ole same
ole, nothing to see here while our Guardians defend us. Ric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoP2W4v2v8
-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
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