https://archive.org/download/TheJoeRoganExperiencePodcast1465/JRE-Podcast-28... this is fucking hilarious. Apart from rogan there's another 'comedian' (that is, literally a clown) who is *lecturing* duesberg on "retroviruses" "antibodies" "cancer" and what not. The turd is hysterical as fuck, shouting at duesberg. At some point duesberg says to the turd "you record those tapes from the establishment very well".