On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 06:08:41 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 02:27:21PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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enlighten me zen - what's the difference between jew-fascist cunts and kkkristian-fascist cunts?

and why do you constantly post tons of fascist propaganda here? Do you get paid to shill zerohedge and accomplices, or what.

Yes I have stopped beating my wife.

Wait, what?

what part you don't get? you are constantly spamming right-wing garbage, copy-pasted from zerohedge. Why do you do that.

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what part you don't get? you are constantly spamming right-wing garbage, copy-pasted from zerohedge. Why do you do that.

How, actually/ practically, do you propose to End The Fed ?

How might any sitting US president, end the Fed and once again restart printing USD greenbacks (and not Federal Reserve Notes) ?

As in, end the Fed -without- said sitting president being JFKed?

On usury vis a vis Christians, Jews and Muslims: When and why did the Christian Church stop viewing usury as a sin? https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1030,00.html 1. NO DENOMINATION of the Christian Church has ever condoned usury, which we might define as an extortionate charge for the use of money or fungible goods, but the charging of interest is no longer regarded as usurious in all circumstances. In fact there is no direct condemnation of interest-taking in the New Testament; it is even tolerated in the Parable of the Talents. The Old Testament authority - Exodus 22:25, Leviticus 25:35, and Deuteronomy 20:19 - does not constitute a blanket ban on interest-taking, but condemns taking interest from the poor, and within the Jewish community. The taking of interest was forbidden to clerics from AD 314. It was strictly forbidden for laymen in 1179. The beginning of the end as far as the total ban on interest was concerned came in the sixteenth century. Although Luther and Zwingli still condemned it utterly, Calvin and some progressive Catholic thinkers such as Collet and Antoine argued that interest-taking did not constitute usury, as long as it represented the real difference between the value of present and future sums of money, and was not mere extortion. The Catholic Church still forbids usury, meaning extortionate charges, providing penalties in c2354 of the Code of Canon Law, but this does not mean that all interest-taking is sinful. The Vatican itself invests in interest-bearing schemes, and requires Church administrators to do likewise. That all interest was not in itself sinful was finally decided in a series of decisions in the institutions of the Catholic Church in the nineteenth century. Gwen Seabourne, London N4. 2. I DON'T think Gwen Seabourne should be allowed to get away with her anodyne answer. That the Christian Church banned usury for many centuries is not invalidated by reference to the Bible (family planning is not disallowed in the Bible). Nor can usury be defined as the extortionate charging of interest: usury is the charging of any interest. The Vatican ties itself up in complex circumlocutions to divert attention from the fact that it runs capitalist institutions based on the most blatant condoning of usury. The verbal acrobatics testify to the contradictory situation it finds itsef in. Usury - all usury - is banned by Christian doctrine, as it is by Muslim doctrine. In the late Middle Ages the problem of financing the royal exchequer and setting up capitalist institutions in the face of the Christian ban on usury was resolved by allowing Jews to act as bankers. They therefore came to be viewed as pariahs, just as cow hide tanners are pariahs in Hindu society. It was in this way that the Jewish community was able to accrue vast wealth and thereby to bring down on its head the loathing of the Christians. Hence Shylock. This enmity is still the underlying basis of modern anti-Semitism. The fact that (mainly) Jewish bankers did very well out of the collapse of free-market economics in Weimar Germany was the determining reality in the rise of Hitler and the Nazi movement. Gwen Seabourne states that the Catholic Church still forbids usury. That's good enough for me. Jonathan Morton, London W11. 3. "The beginning of the end as far as the total ban on interest was concerned came in the sixteenth century." is too vague for my liking. Are we talking about a Papal ban? and when exactly was it lifted? Jack Gee, Grantham UK 4. The question is: "When and why did the Christian Church stop viewing usury as a sin?" The foundation of the Church ( the faithful who believe Yeshua is Lord ) is found in His very Word: "And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful." - Luke 6:34-36 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you. - Luke 6:38 It goes so far as not considering a loan to be repaid, but to be considered gift!! The Lord teaches His faithful to be generous, even to those who are not your brother or sister... it is a high bar of living this earthly life He has set. Usury / charging of interest heads into the opposite direction of His kingdom. Edmundo Santiago, Upland, US

On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 05:34:34PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 07:09:37 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 04:31:05PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 06:08:41 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 02:27:21PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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enlighten me zen - what's the difference between jew-fascist cunts and kkkristian-fascist cunts?

and why do you constantly post tons of fascist propaganda here? Do you get paid to shill zerohedge and accomplices, or what.

Yes I have stopped beating my wife.

Wait, what?

what part you don't get? you are constantly spamming right-wing garbage, copy-pasted from zerohedge. Why do you do that.

How, actually/ practically, do you propose to End The Fed ?

why are you parroting what the zerohedge christian cunts say about 'the fed'

govcorp banks (Jim Bell's corporations) are obviously a problem, but why parrot like a fucking brain dead robot what zerohedge says?

is motherfucking putin 'ending' the russian central bank? What about putin kicking visa out of russia?

So are you proposing that Putin ought kick Visa out of Russia? Should Trump ban all banks, or just particular banks?

On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 06:23:18PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 08:13:22 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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So are you proposing that Putin ought kick Visa out of Russia?

I'm showing that putin is a wall street cocksucker. Is that clear enough for you?

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Should Trump ban all banks, or just particular banks?

and trumpo is another wall street cocksucker. And trumpo and putin are 'partners'. Do you get it? Or are you going to spam some more zerohedge-kkkristian 'orthodox' RT bullshit? Don't forget to add some screeches about 'pizza' as well.

I do get that actual solutions are challenging - and that's a massive understatement. grarpamp is on the ball on this one - the challenges we face are not easy to solve, nor simple, nor with "this single silver bullet" solution. Raving and raging about all the problems is useful to some degree, to help educate those who missed one or another memo. One of those problems is the Federal Reserve Banking system. We in Australia are particularly pissed off about this. Why? Well, after World War II, Australia was the only participant nation to come out of the war with zero debt, having funded everything we did in that war! At that moment in time, just prior to the Bretton Woods meeting and the institution of the Federal Reserve Debt system upon Australia and all other nations the Fed could get their grubby mits on, Australia was, bar only one, the wealthiest nation per capita, in the world! We manufactured our own aeroplanes, trains, cars, trucks, radios, televisions, washing machines, everything! "Cheap Japanese crap" was always the joke. (Switzerland was technically wealthier than Australia per capita, since they had most of the Nazi gold, and cash and etc from other nations too... and had been a banking "safe haven" for a very long time prior.) Not only did we Aussies manufacture everything we ever needed, we grew all the food we needed - grains, fruit, begetables, abundant meat of every sort, dairy etc. And not only did we have zero debt, manufacture everything we needed, and grow everything we wanted to eat, we also dug out of the ground all the coal, oil, gas, iron ore and other metals and resources that we ever possibly needed, to fuel our entire industry. And, of course, on top of all this, we exported plenty. Then Bretton Woods happened and Rothschild enslaved Australia and with usurious debt "claimed" over 98% of the wealth of Australia - the value of our dollar, the removal of our industry to other nations, and we were left with a now significantly socialiast economy relying on mineral exports to pay the interest on "our debt". And absolute, unmitigated theft of our wealth, and a complete farce to boot. As more and more people discover what happened, some of them get angry. This awareness, and anger, is a very good thing! Without awareness, and opposition to the evil, there is no possibility of fixing the problem. With awareness, and with a rising opposition to this evil, there is at least the remote possibility that we may raise sufficient collective intention and will to cause a correction to our erroneous way. Step 1, is awareness. Please help spread the word.