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Subject: Re: Black Ribbon Day & FSFEGoogle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:00:33 +0200 (CEST)
From: Garfield Europe
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Somebody did all this while I was sleeping?
Great work!
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Aug 18, 2020, 08:27 by team@debian.community:
On 18/08/2020 09:57, Johann Gross wrote:
How can you write such stupid text in the name of the
fellowship? I am
also member of the fellowship but I do not agree with what you
write.
Thank you for your feedback. This mailing list welcomes multiple
opinions.
Can a blog be stupid and true at the same time?
We are happy to be stupid if it helps people use the opportunity to
understand what TOTALITARIANISM really means.
Fact: Fellows were never allowed to nominate for president or attend the
annual meeting of FSFE. Is that more like democracy or dictatorship?
Even if it is stupid, which point from the blog is /not/ based on fact?
- Gemlich letter (1919) and FSFE minutes (2019) both spread defamation
- Nazis stole artworks, FSFE are stealing RMS's trademark (see below,
"the framework agreement, as it stands, is not being honored from
any side")
- Nazis and FSFE claim and pretends to speak for all Europe
- Nazis and FSFE both cancelled elections
- Nazis and FSFE both censored political opponents
- Nazis and FSFE both made experiments on people (look at how they
brainwashed somebody after 34C3, more details to come)
- when Nazis and FSFE can't control somebody, they try to make them
completely disappear
Nobody says that FSFE == Nazi Party. This is just a feature comparison
that is disturbingly accurate.
You really have severe mental problems
What about volunteers who work for Google(=FSFE) without getting paid?
Most people find that behavior odd.
https://fsfellowship.eu/matthias-kirschner-fsfe-nazi-comparisons/
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Subject: Re: FSF asking us to change our name II
Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 15:31:39 +0200
From: Jonas Oberg
To: Bernhard Reiter
CC: ga@fsfeurope.org
Hi Bernhard,
I largely agree with you, but I would like to ask for a clarification on
this part:
I don't see why. We should ask them to establish the agreed
cooperation.
If I take an honest look at the framework agreement, I believe it's
phrased rather favourable towards the FSF, and a lot of what we would
like to see -- such as joint decision making on important issues related
to Free Software -- isn't actually in the agreement aside from an intent
to develop such a way in some hypothetical future.
And I can truly see why the FSF believes we are in violation of the
agreement, at least on parts. Our work on the Radio Directive and other
policy work I believe is an example of work that according to the
agreement should be carried out by the FSF, and not the FSFE.
Our work on standards for cloud services is close to what's reserved for
the FSF. On the other part, there are a number of activities envisioned
from the FSFE which we don't do, or never did: operate the GNU Business
Network, develop new free software, translate FSF position papers,
recruit more volunteers for the GNU project, resell FSF merchandise,
and so on.
So the framework agreement, as it stands, is not being honored from
any side. What I understand from you is that you think we can push
more on this:
We intend, in the
future, after we have gained experience working together, to develop a
system wherein these decisions are approved jointly by a specific list
of several major FSFs.
Essentially, our message could be that now, after 15 years, we have the
experience of working together. It's not been a pleasurable experience,
but we now know what the current tensions and activities are, which
makes
this a good time to now negotiate what such a system for join decision
making would look like.
Is that close to what you intend?
Sincerely,
-- Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas@fsfe.org
Your support enables our work (fsfe.org/join)
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