Re: Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/2016 04:51 PM, juan wrote:

On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 10:33:11 -0700 Greg Newby wrote:

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Dear Zenaan, Georgi:

Good suggestions, thanks! I edited the list public HTML based on what's below, and also the nice Pastebin article that was posted here recently.

https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo

"Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed."

Hum. Examples of sabotage would be interesting to see. Would that include posting links to live HTML-borne exploits against browsers or MUAs to the list, links to sites offering trojan installers (i.e. Sourceforge or worse), or jokes like advice to do "sudo rm -rf ./*"? One normally thinks of sabotage as attacks against physical or digital assets. COINTELPRO was a Hoover-era FBI political warfare program, grounded in the proposition that U.S. Civil Rights, Anti-War and radical political activities in general were 5th column operations sponsored and controlled by communist States. Calling today's U.S. domestic political warfare programs COINTELPRO is reminiscent of Conspiracy Theorist wannabes who call notional present-day Illuminati sponsored mind control operations MKULTRA (and spell it wrong).

So you have a fair amount of clear examples of all that. Please link them?

+10 I seem to be missing the real fun. Lemme see the sabotage and COINTELPRO content. Also, grammar nazi time: "misdirection and control of a internet forum." (vs. "an Internet forum") Overall the disclaimer seems redundant to me, and sounds too much like a script kiddie brag. Posting it as a sign out front is something a party interested in "dilution, misdirection and control" would do to suggest that a forum is sponsored and populated by teenage poseurs. An abbreviated form like this would be more than sufficient IMO: "The Cypherpunks list is an unmoderated forum. Prospective subscribers should be aware that the tenor of conversation is often contentious, offensive, and always politically incorrect. New subscribers are encouraged to observe the conversation before posting: Lurk before you leap." :o) Steve Kinney -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXzLG3AAoJEECU6c5Xzmuq2mwH/jkeUWTA0gGN9oqRqlg6j27P bBTxmL1yEL4RR8pBX6sKe3ScSm3VA2luEjE4BymX8ykZjB9XHcAJueapCHcVJrxt sYQrIj7m4ZbiD3B/GFdi4GzV90JxRbcJY0zlHxOyIq/TVO1q3WZPyku4BsMJkWZE VTMTuYckBt2hdcdfTt/4kP8LvJNYu1y1l2gvEBj0l2evstvnrIdgZ6I7SudybBlN WyzHy8Nz+SXgY1+aBNh+8DMSAFWGT9EnFDHpxdVZ4Q9odus0/BWWrOFu9/eI1CeA ynORqsP1sEYGqEEMn8DMkShQOHsenrK9hRB2f6laUy1uDrJFX4NbdAdX87E8udY= =bRsx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----