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On Saturday, January 4, 2020, 01:15:00 PM PST, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:


On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:49:58 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:


>>   This looks to be a somewhat more detailed statement of this product: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-introduces-horse-ridge-enable-commercially-viable-quantum-computers

>    yeah, that source is a bit better...

>    So, a few datapoints

>    1) the chip is an 'ordinary' chip used to interface to qbits. It's not a 'quantum chip' itself. 


Apparently so.  I think it controls the environment for the q-bits in the cold, but is capable of existing and working in that cold, too.


 >   2) the project is a textbook fascist project done by 'cooperation' between criminals at intel and criminals at the dutch government "TU Delft and TNO (Netherlands Organization for Applied Scientific Research)" 

Whether the "criminals" part is relevant is a matter of debate.


 >   3) here's an interesting bit
>    "...scale the quantum system to the hundreds or thousands of qubits required to demonstrate quantum practicality, not to mention the millions of qubits required for a commercially viable quantum solution"
    oh so an actually working system requires millions of qbits, but the current systems have at best 50? Well hopefully they will never manage to get more than 50. 

At one time, getting 100 transistors to interact on a single chip was considered phenomenal.

I first got interested in electronics about 1970's, when I was 12 years old.  My father had once had a hobby of building (tube-type) audio amplifiers in the 1950's, but he was interrupted by wife and two children.  He wanted to get back into the area, especially when he had heard about "integrated circuits" (ICs), a new and remarkable invention that had HUNDREDS ("Hundreds, I tell ya!!!") of transistors in a small plastic package at least 10 times smaller in volume than most vacuum tubes.  This was truly remarkable.

I initially started analog, seeing what I could build with the common 741 op amp.  A very useful chip, I didn't have to learn much about electronics to use them.
Later, my father wanted me to involve myself in digital electronics.  SSI turned to MSI turned to LSI turned to VLSI, and eventually ULSI.   I think about ULSI time they gave up on superlatives.  The lesson?  It is the nature of these devices that they seem to go in "Moore's Law" speed.   Orignal (60's) Moore's law was a doubling of transistors in 1 year;  70's and 80's Moore's law was doubling in 18 months; 90's Moore's law was doubling every two years.  

   
>https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/what-it-will-take-make-quantum-computers-practical/

>    "applications such as drug development, logistics optimization...natural disaster prediction and many more."
   
 >  'natural disaster prediction' sounds like complete bullshit. As to the other two, who gives a fuck. Of course the scumbag at intel isn't commenting on any military application included in the 'many more' category...


  >  bottom line : QC is either useless or harmful, and hopefully will never work.

Said as if you think you can stop it, or that anyone can stop it.  Isn't going to happen.  
Could a smartphone (a 2008 invention)  have been predicted in 1968?  Let alone 1958?

Even Star Fleet Captain James T. Kirk only was issued a flip-phone.  

                   Jim Bell