On 6/17/2015 1:57 PM, Softy wrote:
I'm not an expert on everything. but if you want to sell drugs, you
don't do it in your own neighborhood. That is probably not the
answer you'd expected but that's the level of pragmatism I'd expect.
I'll bite. True. I just feel to see how that's the underlying cause.
After the second WW the US was left with a huge defense industry.
Du-uh they want to keep making money so the underlying cause most
likely is money and defense contracts. The rest is just icing on the
cupcake.
So, all-in-all you're kind of extrapolating here. And from this
point on I know that you and I no longer speak the same language.
Even though we use the same words, they convey different ideas.
Communism in the the true sense of it's implementation means
expropriation... by force. And the way that it happened in Russia,
with all it's true communists is that everything effectively
belonged to the state. You, in hindsight, can not deny this because
it's a stupid fact. Like gravity. That is probably not what you read
in Das Kapital.
Regardless of how you feel about this form of government, this
scared the shit out of the folks back here because it's Capitalism's
antithesis. *disclaimer: I'm pointing stuff out.
Now you might read propaganda from that day and age, and come to an
entirely different conclusion about the severity of this problem.
Probably because your definition of communism is very much like that
of Marx's Das Kapital. Which in the light of what the USSR
effectively did was not that great.
Okay, this is where you fall flat on your face. Americans, however
you feel about them, do not identify themselves with their
government.*1 So, you don't get to be even close to understand how
to make a difference even if you wanted to. Because if they actually
took their government serious, things would have been different.
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1: You'll find that just about every American represents themselves
and the country. This explains all those fricken flags. That is what
makes us so loud and obnoxious. Because it's a continuous play of
grandstanding, conceding in private... rinse, repeat. So the only
thing you'd need to do is provide a viable alternative and wham bam
not only will it be embraced, it will become American. That in a
nutshell is why I like this country. Less superficial bullshit
through the process of self-defeating properties of superficial
bullshit.
Like the Borg in Star Trek. But the Borg in this story are actually
all hot sociable supermodels in their model cube-Home. That wave
flags, eat nice food, have awesome entertainment, and shoot you if
you are part of some weirdo hive-mind. They are much nicer then Borg
really.
Turning against is such a ridiculous way to explain what is going
on. It's called fallen from grace. People are trying to walk away
from U.S. Hegemony. And that is fine with me. Foreign governments
are relying too much on American military power as I see it. That is
why they don't run very fast. If they are running at all.
The only problem with this "logical" conclusion is that, to me, it
can go ever which way. If tomorrow people are fed up, they'll change
it to whatever. That is also why people in power decided they need
secret courts with secret interpretations of secret laws.
The U.S. population is not the U.S. government. And the way you sell
it to them they don't want to be either.