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Re: cypherpunks Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9
by John Elicker 08 Jan '15

08 Jan '15

Please unsubscribe On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:00 AM, <cypherpunks-request(a)cpunks.org> wrote: > Send cypherpunks mailing list submissions to > cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cypherpunks-request(a)cpunks.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cypherpunks-owner(a)cpunks.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cypherpunks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (Cathal Garvey) > 2. Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (Mark Steward) > 3. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] (grarpamp) > 4. Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (Cathal Garvey) > 5. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] > (Georgi Guninski) > 6. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] (Cathal Garvey) > 7. Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (Griffin Boyce) > 8. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] (grarpamp) > 9. What is offtopic and what should be avoided on this list? > (Georgi Guninski) > 10. Re: Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (stef) > 11. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] > (Georgi Guninski) > 12. Re: Rant on BSD vs GPL was [Good ol' BSD vs. GPL] > (Georgi Guninski) > 13. Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] (grarpamp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 10:21:42 +0000 > From: Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey(a)cathalgarvey.me> > To: cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org > Subject: Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] > Message-ID: <54AD08B6.1070603(a)cathalgarvey.me> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > You know the history and reasons the internet has against top > > posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. > > I know the reasons but they don't apply to me, nor to a growing majority > of users who don't use text-only clients. Most clients these days are > pre-configured to hide replied-to text unless directly quoted, making > pre-quoted text actually more irritating than sub-quoted. > > Despite this, I *do* use text-only mode, and nevertheless find scrolling > down to find replies inline irksome. > > So, as I mentioned previously, this is a cultural difference; I find > your preferred mode annoying, and you find mine annoying. Tough; you > don't own the internet, and neither do I. I won't waste my time > conforming to your expectations, and you won't to mine. So we get over > it and move on. > > ..did you really call top-posting "abuse of other people"? Dude, get > some perspective! > > On 07/01/15 10:07, grarpamp wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey < > cathalgarvey(a)cathalgarvey.me> wrote: > >> > >> However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I > >> come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is > >> anathema to you but not I, that's just > > > > ... lazy. > > > > You know the history and reasons the internet has against top > > posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone > > else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other > > people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your > > messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of > > other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming > > and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit. > > > > (: shitter a as but > > asses lazy your > > to cost no it's > > all After. off else > > everyone pissing on > > keep, want all you > > what that's if But. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 10:37:43 +0000 > From: Mark Steward <marksteward(a)gmail.com> > To: grarpamp <grarpamp(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org" <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org> > Subject: Re: Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...] > Message-ID: > < > CAPyX2ncw3jDRW43TvK8OA5+FE43TX8orPQG3wnKSczRO07d7ZQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey < > > cathalgarvey(a)cathalgarvey.me> wrote: > > > > > > However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I > > > come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is > > > anathema to you but not I, that's just > > > > ... lazy. > > > > You know the history and reasons the internet has against top > > posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone > > else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other > > people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your > > messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of > > other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming > > and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit. > > > > (: shitter a as but > > asses lazy your > > to cost no it's > > all After. off else > > everyone pissing on > > keep, want all you > > what that's if But. > > >

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What the hell can be done with this trinity?
by Badbiosvictim 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

USPS interdiction of routers, computers, packages and mail has little over sight. USPS attempted to censor report of failure to follow safeguards. https://politico.com/story/2014/06/snail-mail-snopping-safeguards-not-follo… >From: " Александр " <afalex169(a)gmail.com> >From the "Spiegel" article > >If all else fails, the NSA and its allies resort to brute force: >> 1. They hack their target's computers/ >> 2. >> >> They hack Internet routers to get to the secret encryption/ >> 3. T >> >> hey intercept computers on the way to their targets, open them and >insert >> spy gear before they even reach their destination. > > >Ok. Nothing new. > >But what the hell can be done with this trinity? >

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John Gilmore: Cryptography list is censoring my emails
by John Young 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

http://cryptome.org/2014/12/gilmore-crypto-censored.htm

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Re: full year 2014 corpus
by coderman 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

> ... > "This is a trap, witting and unwitting. > Do not use it or use at own risk. > Source and this host is out to pwon and phuck you in complicity > with global Internet authorities. > > Signed Batshit Cryptome and Host, > ^H^H^H^H Dec 2014 it is: 47G, 63504 files, sig attached. https://peertech.org/files/fy2014lst.txt hidden service distribution to begin soon. we'll be collecting and reporting on performance results obtained. e.g. https://bugs.torproject.org/8902

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Re: [Cryptography] New Encryption Standard of the Russian Federation GOST Grasshopper
by grarpamp 03 Jan '15

03 Jan '15

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:39 PM, ianG <iang(a)iang.org> wrote: > On 2/01/2015 11:37 am, Eric Filiol wrote: >> The Russian Federation has recently published (in Russian only) the >> tchnical description of its new Encryption Standard. >> I have translated the document into English and implemented this >> algorithm in C (under GPLv3). >> http://cvo-lab.blogspot.fr/2015/01/the-new-gost-standard-from-russian.html > > *Interesting* and it would be very interesting to hear what the real > cryptographers think of the Russian cryptographer's invention! Good work! So there are no real Russian cryptos? Umm. > fair and open competition) did the net voluntarily swing to AES. The competition was part of the swing, so was govt's saying AES(256) was good for TOP SECRET (not that they use it over their own suites), so was it's speed/hardware/simplicity. > What do people say? Should GOST be supported in SSL? Is there any merit in > the "national government mandates" argument? There are govt laws for what the govt itself will only use. (Are you going to not sell to and profit from that govt?) There are govt laws for what the populace will only use. (Are you going to jail for breaking that ban, or will you bow?) There are paths between all the laws for what obediant users can use. And rebels will use whatever they want. If you personally use crap ciphers, that's your own problem. If you support (absent force of law) crap ciphers, or more than the best few in each class such that community has no time to properly analyze them all, that's a community problem. If you don't resist crap law, crap ciphers, or the spawning of endless new ciphers of the month just because, that's a community problem.

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Snowden docs show none are originals of spies
by John Young 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

PDF properties of Snowden docs show none are originals of spies. Likely sanitized-redacted by Snowden/outlets, originals need open scrutiny.

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Snowden Paywalled
by John Young 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

Free: 577,131 documents (millions of pages) informing public debate: https://www.documentcloud.org/public/search/ Paywalled: Snowden: 3,361 pp of 58K-1.7M files: http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm

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Over 80 Percent of Dark-Web Visits Relate to Pedophilia, Study Finds
by Jordi Salvia 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

http://www.wired.com/2014/12/80-percent-dark-web-visits-relate-pedophilia-s… *---Jordi Salvia Cuadras* Vilafranca del Penedès *XMPP: *jsalvia(a)jabber.ccc.de <jsalvia(a)riseup.net> *PGP Key:* 0xBF9E5208

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<JYA> Hash this motherfucker, said math to germ.
by coderman 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

On 12/29/14, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > From discussion on these lists and elsewhere tampering with > data can, does, occur at every software and hardware hand-off, > with each self-serving iteration having hidden and vulnerable hardware > and software undisclosed malignity, no matter the security ostentatiously > applied said another way: there are risks known, and known unknown, and unknown unknown, in such a calculated cache - digital and present harm alike and unto the soul-deep sickness a dragon Smaug, imbued as dark greed, unto sea of coin and wealth unseen in any other age... the risk visible, or not. fathomable, or not. but risk all the same. --- "This is a trap, witting and unwitting. Do not use it or use at own risk. Source and this host is out to pwon and phuck you in complicity with global Internet authorities. Signed Batshit Cryptome and Host, 9 July 2014, 12:16ET." - https://cpunks.org//pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-July/005020.html still true, as always! ... as practical matter, content in such an archive is more actionable in a criminal or civil sense, in some locales, simply by nature of the contention around the content. or loaded with malware. or honeytoken to the void, or ruse of attention sink, or misleading intentionally compartment of confusion, or generator markov awry, or ... --- FY2014 corpora is coming, like cryptome-jul2014 reply to receive early distribution. - cryptome, web, other selected volumes - sha256 short sums, selected signatures - annotated search-able formats, where available - coder's annotations and subsets [to explain later] - Xapian stores by domain for custom aggregation or scope

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Re: 78716A
by Badbiosvictim 30 Dec '14

30 Dec '14

Glad to hear there is legal assistance and a database without being charged attorney hourly fees. I will sign up with MuckRock. >From: Gregory Foster <gfoster(a)entersection.org> >Consider using MuckRock to file your FOIA request, track the response >schedule, and automatically post responsive documents publicly: >https://www.muckrock.com/agency/united-states-of-america-10/national-securi… > >You can review successful requests to the NSA to discern ways to >encourage timely responses, or use them as templates. The MuckRock >folks are doing important work to provide an environment for FOIA >requestors to avoid duplicative efforts, automate the tedium, and >create >a powerful new community. You can follow interesting requests to be >notified when there are status changes and get the docs immediately. > >gf

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