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Fwd: [Dailydave] Bots trying to unsub you
by coderman 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

systemic issue. interesting... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Aitel <dave(a)immunityinc.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:34:54 -0400 Subject: [Dailydave] Bots trying to unsub you To: "dailydave(a)lists.immunityinc.com" <dailydave(a)lists.immunityinc.com> Bots constantly try to unsubscribe you from the list and so you may get a bunch of messages about that, especially if you post. Ignore them. Team IT is looking into it. -dave

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VICE Magazine Beheads It's Canary
by Razer 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

Americas: VICE News Battles Canadian Police Over Right to Protect Journalist's Material By Patrick McGuire October 30, 2015 | 7:00 am VICE News is fighting an attempt by the RCMP — Canada's federal police force — to obtain "any notes and all records of communications" between VICE News reporter, Ben Makuch, and former Calgary resident-turned-Islamic State (IS) militant, Farah Mohamed Shirdon. In February of this year, the RCMP entered VICE Media's offices in both Toronto and Montreal and served Vice Media and Makuch with a production order. In Canada, a production order is similar to a search warrant. Up until this week, VICE News was prohibited from reporting on the RCMP's production order due to a court-ordered sealing order. VICE is contesting the production and sealing orders in court, on the principles of protecting any and all sources, protecting freedom of the press, and to avoid the situation wherein the Canadian news media becomes a veritable investigative arm of the law. Makuch has been a full-time journalist at VICE since 2014 and was a contributor dating back to 2012. He has exclusively reported on the Canadian military's collaboration with Academi (formerly known as Blackwater), the rise of the Canadian arms trade, and has closely followed the activities of known IS militants online. Prior to VICE, he worked at The Canadian Press. Makuch's ongoing reporting around IS militants led him to notice a suspected Canadian member of the IS who was particularly active online: Farah Mohamed Shirdon. Makuch was able to contact Shirdon, under one of his online aliases, through Twitter and KIK Messenger — an instant messaging platform for smartphones with over 14 million users. Through Makuch's exchanges with Shirdon, VICE was one of the first organizations in the world to communicate directly with IS via social media. This provided an unprecedented view into the intentions and motivations of IS members. Makuch wrote two articles for VICE based on his communications with Shirdon, which led to the production order. In October of last year, just before the tragic Parliament Hill shooting in Ottawa, Shirdon told Makuch: "Canadians at home shall face the brunt of the retaliation. If you are in this crusader alliance against Islam and Muslims you shall see your streets filled with blood Inshaa Allah." Makuch's reporting on Shirdon also led VICE CEO and founder Shane Smith to conduct an exclusive Skype interview with Shirdon himself. That interview was incendiary enough to cause the RCMP to charge Shirdon with the "commission of an indictable offence for a terrorist group" after Shirdon warned of an Islamic State attack in New York City. In conversation with Smith in September 2014, Shirdon claimed "a lot of brothers" are in New York City "mobilizing right now." The RCMP has charged Shirdon with five other terrorism-related offenses in absentia. He is believed to still be living among IS. "VICE's treatment by the RCMP is completely reprehensible," said Tom Henheffer, executive director of Canadian Journalists for Free Expression. "Journalists are not lackies for the police and to use us that way is a totally unjustifiable violation of free expression and privacy rights. Going further and slapping a journalism outlet with a months-long gag order is even more absurd. This is not an effective way to fight terrorism, this is not how institutions in a free and democratic society are supposed to behave, and this sets a dangerous precedent for the free press in Canada that must not be repeated." VICE News will be in court on Jan. 11 to argue its case against the Crown, which is representing the RCMP in this matter. Patrick McGuire is the Head of Content for VICE Canada and a member of Canadian Journalists for Free Expression. Some links on page: https://news.vice.com/article/vice-news-battles-canadian-police-over-right-…

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Fwd: Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

One for supporting. In fact, anyone know -how- he could be supported? Z ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:04:57 +1100 Subject: Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID If Mr. Hertzler wins his lawsuit against the U.S. federal government it may set an interesting legal precedent for religious Australian's who want to obtain a gun licence without photo ID. I believe that any sane, reasonably minded human without a serious criminal record has a natural law, common law and a human rights to own and bear guns for recreation, self-defence and protection of their life, liberty and property. You certainly cannot trust government or the police to protect you and your loved ones 24/7 against armed criminals. Jim Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID, claiming the requirement oppresses his religious freedom a.. Amish Andrew Hertzler was refused a gun without photo identification. b.. He claims Amish view photographs violation of Second Commandment. c.. Hertzler says requirement for photo ID oppresses his religious freedom. d.. He's filed lawsuit against government for right to buy gun without a photo. Article continues at: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/10/amish-man-sues-government-to-b…

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"Jewish Spine Discriminates Against Muslim Knife."
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260627/heroic-muslim-terrorist-attacked-f… I wonder - is it a good thing that Daniel presents such stories in a way which has me chuckling a couple rounds after reading of such an event? It's black humour, but real life.

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Re: Cypherpunks is broken - Welcome to Secret Admirers
by John Young 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

Cypherpunks has produced a slew of offsprings who are confident the parents have been surpassed, are feeble, ghosts of their once own offsprings of offsprings of offsprings. Some have become mules unable to offspring so bray at one another neuteredly, some tote-packing jackasses for secretkeepers, some little horses in a geek carnival DEFCON, one a jester performing for food, bed and hookup in a banana republic's UK squat, another raising wild pussies on a hilltop armed to the gizzard against PETA warriors, several offshore heroined and drunk in hot tubs of rotgut financial shenanigans, others on a mechanical island harassed by EU revenuers and algorithmic mermaids, quite a few incarcerating themselves in courtrooms pursuing phantasms of conquering an NSA long out of date by new improved GQNSAFSB, half a dozen are dead, dying, diseased or headphoned heads mounted on mathematics college entablatures. One is a high official in DoD cybercommand-panic to the max, a twin doing the same for PRC. A small number of geezers continue to write code, that is hire kids to do that, but mostly consult to crypto cretinous corporations, suckle on NGO-tit extortions, deliver commodious farts on the speaker circuit, the best and brightest take long naps, buy weekly, monthly, yearly lap dances, search Google for their names, spit and shit blood, shed hair and flesh, burst into episodes of cackling obscure hashes in elliptic circles. Eyes and minds dim and flicker, maws whimper, broken teeth and code pukes down shirt fronts, dapper David Kahn dances into darkening visions of splendid failure, crooning No Such Agency to the solo female cpunk whose name is legend. At 01:21 PM 10/29/2015, you wrote: >Good luck!

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On a more serious note - how it's going on the ground in Syria
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

Ahem. I assure you, the Russian bombing is no satire... 12MB and 6MB respectively. http://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/10/isis-reacts-to-russian-bombing-satire.h…

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Syria - USAF finally figures out where the goddamn oil refineries are
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

Those refineries must have blended in with all those deceptive desert pebbles and the odd desert goat masquerading as an oil refinery. :) http://russia-insider.com/en/putin-makes-obama-offer-he-cant-refuse/ri10834

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US billionaire John Pepper, retired CEO of Proctor & Gamble, re Russia
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Oct '15

31 Oct '15

We can assume John Pepper does not have his hand (at least significantly) in the military neocon money trough. http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/retired-top-us-ceo-make-peace-russia-… " Retired Top US CEO: Make Peace with Russia (John Pepper - Procter & Gamble) ” …we need to avoid a further breakdown in the relationships between Russia and the U.S. This means that we must work together to resolve what are the open wounds now in Ukraine and Syria” “We must avoid seeming to or actually working to impose our values on Russia.” “We must acknowledge Russia as a major global power, with a history and status that deserves and demands respect.” “We must dial down the rhetoric which vilifies the other party when what they are doing is essentially expressing their own national interest and pride as we do.” "

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@OpenTechFund is an unabashed CIA front
by Razer 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

See: https://twitter.com/reggie_airdale/status/642095811803742209 ...and while you're at it check out the new look for schoolgirls in "Moderate Rebel" controlled Idlib Syria: http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/132230415144 Historic photo: US 'advisors' advising civilians Now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSlwDrbWcAA1kvK.jpg:large Then: http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/132232109389

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Re: Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
by Razer 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

On 10/30/2015 11:02 AM, Sean Lynch wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM Razer <Rayzer(a)riseup.net > <mailto:Rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > I think there's a place for individualism within collectivism but the > collective comes first. > > > This I can't really agree with. There is no collective without the > individual, and why should any individual be part of such a thing if > it doesn't benefit him or her? In a word "Survival". > > I recognize that we share the planet and that we all benefit from the > existence of society, but I think the only obligation that places upon > us is to give at least as much as we take. Sorry, as an anarchist I have to say it's an anarchist's responsibility to take responsibility for the well-being of all members of the collective, which for me includes ALL humankind. > But at the end of the day the only people qualified to make the > determination of whether an individual's contribution is adequate is > the individual and anyone considering entering into some kind of > exchange/relationship/whatever with that individual. That is the antithesis of collectivism. > It is the sum total of these decisions and interactions from which > society emerges. Feudal or industrial capitalist society perhaps. > > My longer term hope is that sharing the planet is just a temporary > constraint that we'll eventually overcome. There is a lot of room in > the galaxy and even the solar system. "If you don't like it, leave" More like "We fucked it up. Let's go somewhere else and fuck it up now" (visualizes moon-based fast-food chain trash fired from a rocket hitting alien on head starting an intergalactic war humans are unprepared for leading to their annihilation) You like "Role-Playing" games Sean? I've watched people create alternative personas just as fucked up as their pre-existing one. That IS the lesson from role-playing. If you can't get your 'first life' right, good luck with any other you might conceive. I've had thoughts about letting all the people who think escape from the planet is an option do it, and kill each other off elsewhere so the rest of us who remain can live in peace repairing the damage ... collectively. Almost every enthusiast of the relocation-to-space idea I've ever met is a closeted feudalist. Good luck.. Bon voyage! > is a lot more realistic of an option when the choices and resources > available are practically infinite. No known resource is infinite. > This is not to say I'm sympathetic to the Venus Project and its' ilk; > I don't think they're wrong about a future of abundance, I just think > their language and thinking is rooted in a fundamental > misunderstanding of the meaning of economic scarcity.

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