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Re: [from offlist] Attempted coup d'etat in Turkey
by Rayzer 17 Jul '16

17 Jul '16

On 07/16/2016 11:58 AM, Marina Brown wrote: > On 07/16/2016 11:48 AM, Rayzer wrote: >> >> On 07/16/2016 04:40 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >>> Consider searching the web for: >>> news Turkey coup d'etat >>> >>> Someone old told me coup d'etat's are common for Turkey, the search >>> terms are: >>> >>> history Turkey coup d'etat >>> >>> Does the NATO's Turkey have nukes? >>> >> http://nationalinterest.org/feature/turkey-secretly-working-nuclear-weapons… >> >> >> NOW, here's a 'conspiracy' theory... >> >> A number of Turkish soldiers are saying they thought the coup was a >> drill... Of course You'd say that too if a firing squad or beheading was >> the other option. >> >> https://twitter.com/AP/status/754295122104348672 >> >> ON THE OTHER HAND Erdogan could be seen to be setting up a fake coup to >> use as excuse to kill of dissenting elements in the Turkish Military who >> say he's trying to create an islamist state and use the puny, >> half-assed, undermined-from-the-git coup attempt by low-level officers >> (patsies to you) to cement his power, as dictator, who allows the >> supplying of ‪‎ISIS‬, and whose son owns the trucks that transport, the >> refineries that process, the ships that carry to market, oil stolen from >> Iraq and elsewhere, again, by ISIS. >> >> Rr >> > Erdogan was busy blaming Gulen, a cleric who runs the equivalent of the > Turkish Rotary club. In Erdogan's paranoid world view Gulens > organization which runs a string of business clubs and bording schools > is really a conspiracy to kick him out of power in Turkey. Anything that > goes wrong in Turkey to Erdogan is automatically blamed on Gulen. > > This is the comical but true illustration of Erdogans view. > > --- Marina Brown > That's also my assessment. Gulen had the misfortune to know a RAND analyst who was CIA and later vouched for him when his visa was threatened. But he's no Dalai Lama or the guy who defected from the Libyan army then spent 30 years living in Vienna Va before the CIA tapped him to lead the nascent groups that killed gadaffi, or a Manny Noriega. The fact that his visa was threatened says he's involuntary... Also note no one was saying he'd be invited to the coup party... MOST writeups claim he's a moderate Sufi with minor mystical tendencies. I think he's rather stay in Pa. Rr

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Cryptome Edit War Breaks Out
by grarpamp 17 Jul '16

17 Jul '16

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Atlantic Council: working with the Russians against al-Qaeda, not feasible, due to long term costs to “America’s reputation”
by Zenaan Harkness 16 Jul '16

16 Jul '16

Last month we were looking for a definition of psychopathic. This hints at a definition. https://www.rt.com/op-edge/351265-washingtons-syria-policy-kerry-moscow/ "With Washington’s Syria policy in disarray, Kerry goes to Moscow ... again"

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Trolling the CIA Like a Boss
by Zenaan Harkness 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

KGB Man Putin Trolls the CIA Like a Boss http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/kgb-man-putin-trolls-cia-boss-video/r…

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Fwd: chris just granted you 15 more invites (ALSO: Keybase Filesystem)
by John Newman 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

Does anyone want a keybase invite? They just granted me 15 more. Up till now its been a basically useless service (IMO), although the new keybase filesystem feature actually looks interesting.... -- John -------- Original Message -------- Subject: chris just granted you 15 more invites (ALSO: Keybase Filesystem) Date: 2016-07-15 09:55 From: "Keybase.io" <notify(a)keybase.io> To: jnn(a)synfin.org Dear nixen, CHRIS [1] (CHRIS(a)CHRISCOYNE.COM) just granted you 15 more Keybase invitations, which you can send to friends. Please use them wisely! The signup queue is > 25,000 people long right now, and this bypasses the line entirely. There are now TWO WAYS to invite people: 1. THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. Use the tab on the top of the website [2]. 2. BY SHARING ENCRYPTED FILES in the Keybase filesystem [3]. Just drop files in a folder with you and _username@service_, such as /KEYBASE/PRIVATE/NIXEN,SOMEONE@TWITTER/. That actually works. Real end-to-end encryption. A popup window will arise, like the godhead at dawn, and tell you what happens next. That is our prophesy. _Either way, you're now invited to play with the Keybase filesystem. Make sure to run the latest Keybase [4] app._ Thanks, Keybase Links: ------ [1] https://keybase.io/chris [2] https://keybase.io/ [3] https://keybase.io/docs/kbfs [4] https://keybase.io/download -- John

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Tor project changes directorship
by Zenaan Harkness 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

Trying to contain fallout, or transferring of the guard given problems with current directorship/ attempt to maintain illusion of transparency, when in fact now may be a full CIA/NSA takeover of Tor project? ----- Forwarded message from "LWN.net Daily Summary" <lwn(a)lwn.net> ----- https://lwn.net/Articles/694406/ Tor Project Elects All-New Board of Directors [Announcements] Posted Jul 13, 2016 19:39 UTC (Wed) by ris The Tor Project has announced a new board of directors. "As Tor's board of directors, we consider it our duty to ensure that the Tor Project has the best possible leadership. The importance of Tor's mission requires it; the public standing of the organization makes it possible; and we are committed to achieve it. We had that duty in mind when we conducted an Executive Director search last year, and appreciate the leadership Shari Steele has brought. To support her, we further believe that it is time that we pass the baton of board oversight as the Tor Project moves into its second decade of operations."

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overthrowing a powerfully united, cohesive nation of people - US Senator Richard Black on Syria
by Zenaan Harkness 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

US Senator Richard Black: "We Have Never Done Anything More Loathsome or Despicable Than What We're Doing in Syria." http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/us-senator-we-have-never-done-anything.html (Slightly slow to start, but some amazing quotes and some (new for me) historical facts from this one. A very small sampling: " the CIA could not go before Congress and say, “Look, we intend to attack a neutral, non-belligerent country, where the people are happy, prosperous, and enjoy greater women’s rights and religious freedom than any other Arab nation; we’re going to rip it to shreds, we’re going to open up a torrent of bloodshed: Please give us an appropriation so we can purchase weapons to do it.” " " Within three days from the city of Hama, 70,000 Christians streamed into Damascus; why Damascus? Because they knew that President Assad would protect the Christians. He would protect anyone who was under attack by the Muslim Brotherhood. " " if you want to consider whether the people of Syria are for or against their government and their President, just consider this: Syria has a population of 23 million people. It is in the sixth year of a war in which it has been opposed by the United States, Great Britain, France, NATO, the European Union,... " " Where have we [USA] come?! What has come of this country?! " " Extremely reckless, nearly an insane American policy, driven by Saudi wealth that lines the pockets of top people in this country. It’s sad. " )

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Sanity in Switzerland: What's in a handshake?
by Zenaan Harkness 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

----- Forwarded message from Jim ----- Hugh Fitzgerald: Switzerland: What’s in a Handshake? JIHAD WATCH By Hugh Fitzgerald May 27, 2016 12:12 pm 117 Comments Sometimes it’s the little things that are most telling. In Switzerland it has long been customary for students to shake the hands of their teachers at the beginning and end of the school day. It’s a sign of solidarity and mutual respect between teacher and pupil, one that is thought to encourage the right classroom atmosphere. Justice Minister Simonetta Sommaruga recently felt compelled to further explain that shaking hands was part of Swiss culture and daily life. And the reason she felt compelled to speak out about the handshake is that two Muslim brothers, aged 14 and 15, who have lived in Switzerland for several years (and thus are familiar with its mores), in the town of Therwil, near Basel, refused to shake the hands of their teacher, a woman, because, they claimed, this would violate Muslim teachings that contact with the opposite sex is allowed only with family members. At first the school authorities decided to avoid trouble, and initially granted the boys an exemption from having to shake the hand of any female teacher. But an uproar followed, as Mayor Reto Wolf explained to the BBC: “the community was unhappy with the decision taken by the school. In our culture and in our way of communication a handshake is normal and sends out respect for the other person, and this has to be brought [home] to the children in school.” Therwil’s Educational Department reversed the school’s decision, explaining in a statement on May 25 that the school’s exemption was lifted because “the public interest with respect to equality between men and women and the integration of foreigners significantly outweighs the freedom of religion.” It added that a teacher has the right to demand a handshake. Furthermore, if the students refused to shake hands again “the sanctions called for by law will be applied,” which included a possible fine of up to 5,000 dollars. This uproar in Switzerland, where many people were enraged at the original exemption granted to the Muslim boys, did not end after that exemption was itself overturned by the local Educational Department. The Swiss understood quite clearly that this was more than a little quarrel over handshakes; it was a fight over whether the Swiss would be masters in their own house, or whether they would be forced to yield, by the granting of special treatment, to the Islamic view of the proper relations between the sexes. It is one battle – small but to the Swiss significant – between o’erweening Muslim immigrants and the indigenous Swiss. Naturally, once the exemption was withdrawn, all hell broke loose among Muslims in Switzerland. The Islamic Central Council of Switzerland, instead of yielding quietly to the Swiss decision to uphold the handshaking custom, criticized the ruling in hysterical terms, claiming that the enforcement of the handshaking is “totalitarian” (!) because its intent is to “forbid religious people from meeting their obligations to God.” That, of course, was never the “intent” of the long-standing handshaking custom, which was a nearly-universal custom in Switzerland, and in schools had to do only with encouraging the right classroom atmosphere of mutual respect between instructor and pupil, of which the handshake was one aspect. The Swiss formulation of the problem – weighing competing claims — will be familiar to Americans versed in Constitutional adjudication. In this case “the public interest with respect to equality” of the sexes and the “integration of foreigners” (who are expected to adopt Swiss ways, not force the Swiss to exempt them from some of those ways) were weighed against the “religious obligations to God” of Muslims, and the former interests found to outweigh the latter. What this case shows is that even at the smallest and seemingly inconsequential level, Muslims are challenging the laws and customs of the Infidels among whom they have been allowed to settle. Each little victory, or defeat, will determine whether Muslims will truly integrate into a Western society or, instead, refashion that society to meet Muslim requirements. The handshake has been upheld and, what’s more, a stiff fine now will be imposed on those who continue to refuse to shake hands with a female teacher. This is a heartening sign of non-surrender by the Swiss. But the challenges of the Muslims within Europe to the laws and customs of the indigenes have no logical end and will not stop. And the greater the number of Muslims allowed to settle in Europe, the stronger and more frequent their challenges will be. They are attempting not to integrate, but rather to create, for now, a second, parallel society, and eventually, through sheer force of numbers from both migration and by outbreeding the Infidels, to fashion not a parallel society but one society — now dominated by Muslims. The Swiss handshaking dispute has received some, but not enough, press attention. Presumably, it’s deemed too inconsequential a matter to bother with. But the Swiss know better. And so should we. There’s an old Scottish saying that in one variant reads: “Many a little makes a mickle.” That is, the accumulation of many little things leads to one big thing. That’s what’s happening in Europe today. This was one victory for the side of sanity. There will need to be a great many more. Source: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/hugh-fitzgerald-switzerland-whats-in-a-h…

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GlomarDisclosure with your host Michael Best
by grarpamp 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

https://glomardisclosure.com/

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Tor repos on github draw certain...
by grarpamp 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2016-July/000512.html ... censors, quotes of free speech, and irony. Create your own repos on an onion today... FTW! Related: https://blog.cloudflare.com/author/marek-majkowski/

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