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[ot] monologues bemoaning spamming the cypherpunks list
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

cypherpunks list, i am sorry for bombing you with tiny emails. i am not sorry in the way that i expect it to stop soon. but i am sorry in the way where i experience worry or sadness around it. -- in my life, i've mentioned this on-list, my new behaviors have harmed people and things that i care about. it's an interesting space, to --

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Hackers: Kevin Mitnick: Ghost in the Wire, Now Freed From Downtime - Dead at 53
by grarpamp 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

https://archive.org/details/FreedomDowntime-TheStoryOfKevinMitnick Kevin Mitnick Mitnick in 2010 Born Kevin David Mitnick August 6, 1963 Van Nuys, California, U.S. Died July 16, 2023 (aged 59) Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.[1] Other names The Condor, The Darkside Hacker Occupations Information technology consultant Author Organizations Mitnick Security Consulting Chief Hacking Officer at KnowBe4, Inc Board member of KnowBe4 Criminal charge(s) 1995: Wire fraud (14 counts), possession of unauthorized access devices (8 counts), interception of wire or electronic communications, unauthorized access to a federal computer, and causing damage to a computer[2][3] Criminal penalty 1988: One year prison[4] 1999: 46 months prison plus 3 years probation Spouse Kimberley Mitnick (m. 2022) Call sign N6NHG[5] Website www.mitnicksecurity.com Kevin David Mitnick (August 6, 1963 – July 16, 2023) was an American computer security consultant, author, and convicted hacker. He is best known for his high-profile 1995 arrest and five years in prison for various computer and communications-related crimes.[6] Mitnick's pursuit, arrest, trial, and sentence along with the associated journalism, books, and films were all controversial.[7][8] After his release from prison, he ran his own security firm, Mitnick Security Consulting, LLC, and was also involved with other computer security businesses. Early life and education Mitnick was born on August 6, 1963,[9] in Van Nuys, California.[10] His father was Alan Mitnick, his mother was Shelly Jaffe, and his maternal grandmother was Reba Vartanian.[1][11] He grew up in Los Angeles, California.[9] At age 12, Mitnick convinced a bus driver to tell him where he could buy his own ticket punch for "a school project", and was then able to ride any bus in the greater Los Angeles area using unused transfer slips he found in a dumpster next to the bus company garage.[12] Mitnick attended James Monroe High School in North Hills,[13][14] during which time he became a licensed amateur radio operator with callsign WA6VPS[15] (his license was restored after imprisonment with callsign N6NHG[16]). He chose the nickname "Condor" after watching the movie Three Days of the Condor.[17] He was later enrolled at Los Angeles Pierce College and USC.[13] Career For a time, Mitnick worked as a receptionist for Stephen S. Wise Temple.[13] Computer hacking Mitnick gained unauthorized access to a computer network in 1979, at 16, when a friend gave him the telephone number for the Ark, the computer system that Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) used for developing its RSTS/E operating system software.[18] He broke into DEC's computer network and copied the company's software, a crime for which he was charged and convicted in 1988. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison followed by three years of supervised release. Near the end of his supervised release, Mitnick hacked into Pacific Bell voicemail computers. After a warrant was issued for his arrest, Mitnick fled, becoming a fugitive for two-and-a-half years.[19] According to the United States Department of Justice, Mitnick gained unauthorized access to dozens of computer networks while he was a fugitive. He used cloned cellular phones to hide his location and, among other things, copied valuable proprietary software from some of the country's largest cellular telephone and computer companies.[20][21] Mitnick also intercepted and stole computer passwords, altered computer networks, and broke into and read private emails.[21][22] Arrest, conviction, and incarceration Black sans serif text "FREE KEVIN" on a yellow backgroundSupporters from 2600 Magazine distributed "Free Kevin" bumper stickers.[23] After a well-publicized pursuit, the Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested Mitnick on February 15, 1995, at his apartment in Raleigh, North Carolina, on federal offenses related to a two-and-a-half-year period of computer hacking that included computer and wire fraud.[24][25] He was found with cloned cellular phones, more than 100 cloned cellular phone codes, and multiple pieces of false identification.[26] In December 1997, the Yahoo! Web site was hacked, displaying a message calling for Mitnick's release. According to the message, all recent visitors of Yahoo!'s site had been infected with a computer worm that would wreak havoc on Christmas Day unless Mitnick was released. Yahoo! dismissed the claims as a hoax and said that the worm was nonexistent.[27][28] Mitnick was charged with 14 counts of wire fraud, eight counts of possession of unauthorized access devices, interception of wire or electronic communications, unauthorized access to a federal computer, and causing damage to a computer.[29] He was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, but it was not used as evidence at his trial.[30] In 1999, Mitnick pleaded guilty to four counts of wire fraud, two counts of computer fraud, and one count of illegally intercepting a wire communication, as part of a plea bargain before the United States District Court for the Central District of California in Los Angeles. He was sentenced to 46 months in prison plus 22 months for violating the terms of his 1989 supervised release sentence for computer fraud. He admitted to violating the terms of supervised release by hacking into Pacific Bell voicemail and other systems and to associating with known computer hackers, in this case co-defendant Lewis De Payne.[2][31][32] Mitnick served five years in prison—four-and-a-half years' pre-trial and eight months in solitary confinement, because, according to Mitnick, law enforcement officials convinced a judge that he had the ability to "start a nuclear war by whistling into a pay phone",[33] implying that law enforcement told the judge that he could somehow dial into the NORAD modem via a payphone from prison and communicate with the modem by whistling to launch nuclear missiles.[34] In addition, a number of media outlets reported on the unavailability of kosher meals at the prison where he was incarcerated.[35] Mitnick was released on January 21, 2000. During his supervised release, which ended on January 21, 2003, he was initially forbidden to use any communications technology other than a landline telephone.[36] Under the plea deal, Mitnick was also prohibited from profiting from films or books based on his criminal activity for seven years, under a variation of the Son of Sam law.[37] In December 2001, a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) judge ruled that Mitnick was sufficiently rehabilitated to possess a federally issued amateur radio license.[38] Controversy Mitnick's criminal activities, arrest, and trial, along with the associated journalism, were all controversial.[7] Though Mitnick was convicted of copying software unlawfully,[39] his supporters argue that his punishment was excessive and that many of the charges against him were fraudulent[40] and not based on actual losses.[41] John Markoff and Tsutomu Shimomura, who had both been part of the pursuit of Mitnick, wrote the book Takedown about Mitnick's capture.[42] The case against Mitnick tested the new laws that had been enacted for dealing with computer crime and it raised public awareness of security involving networked computers. The controversy remains, however, and the Mitnick story is often cited today as an example of the influence that newspapers and other media outlets can have on law enforcement personnel.[43] Consulting After his release in 2000, Mitnick became a paid security consultant, public speaker, and author. He carried out security consulting for, performed penetration testing services, and taught social engineering classes to companies and government agencies. He ran Mitnick Security Consulting LLC, a computer security consultancy and was part owner of KnowBe4, provider of an integrated platform for security awareness training and simulated phishing testing,[44][45] as well as an active advisory board member at Zimperium,[46] a firm that develops a mobile intrusion prevention system.[47] He resided in Las Vegas, Nevada.[48] Death Kevin Mitnick died from pancreatic cancer on July 16, 2023, at the age of 59 at a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania hospital.[1] At the time of his death, he was married and his wife was pregnant with his first child.[9][1][49][50] Media Adrian Lamo, Kevin Mitnick, and Kevin Poulsen (photo c. 2001) In 2000, Skeet Ulrich and Russell Wong portrayed Mitnick and Tsutomu Shimomura, respectively, in the movie Track Down (known as Takedown outside the US), which was based on the book Takedown by John Markoff and Shimomura. The DVD was released in September 2004.[51] Mitnick also appeared in Werner Herzog's documentary Lo and Behold, Reveries of the Connected World (2016).[52] Books Written by Mitnick Mitnick is the co-author, with William L. Simon and Robert Vamosi, of four books, three on computer security and his autobiography: (2002) The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security[53] (2005) The Art of Intrusion: The Real Stories Behind the Exploits of Hackers, Intruders & Deceivers[54] (2011) Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World's Most Wanted Hacker[13] (2017) The Art of Invisibility[55] Authorized by Mitnick (1996) The Fugitive Game: Online with Kevin Mitnick, Jonathan Littman[56] See also Kevin Poulsen List of computer criminals "My kung fu is stronger than yours" The Secret History of Hacking References Albeck-Ripka, Livia; Mayorquin, Orlando (July 20, 2023). "Kevin Mitnick, Hacker Who Once Eluded Authorities, Is Dead at 59". The New York Times. 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United States Department of Justice. February 15, 1995. Archived from the original on June 29, 2012. The Colbert Report[not specific enough to verify] Painter, Christopher M. E. (March 2001). "Supervised Release and Probation Restrictions in Hacker Cases" (PDF). United States Attorneys' USA Bulletin. Executive Office for United States Attorneys. 49 (2). Archived (PDF) from the original on July 21, 2015. Retrieved April 19, 2015. "Yahoo Hack: Heck of a Hoax". Wired. December 9, 1997. Original text posted to Yahoo's website at archive.org Hesseldahl, Arik (September 4, 1998). "Hacker Can't Get Access". Wired – via wired.com. Hess, Ken (September 12, 2011). "Ghost in the Wires: The Kevin Mitnick Interview". ZDNET. Archived from the original on November 5, 2022. Retrieved November 5, 2022. "Computer Hacker Kevin Mitnick Sentenced to Prison". fas.org. Federation of American Scientists. June 27, 1997. Archived from the original on April 15, 2019. Retrieved February 16, 2020. "Kevin Mitnick sentenced to nearly four years in prison; computer hacker ordered to pay restitution to victim companies whose systems were compromised". usdoj.gov. United States Attorney's Office, Central District of California, U.S. Department of Justice. August 9, 1999. Archived from the original on September 26, 2009. Mills, Elinor (July 20, 2008). "Social Engineering 101: Mitnick and other hackers show how it's done". CNET. Archived from the original on July 13, 2012. "Famed hacker to Snowden: Watch out". CNN. Archived from the original on March 30, 2022. Retrieved May 8, 2020. "Life Not Kosher for Mitnick". Wired. August 18, 1999. Archived from the original on September 18, 2012. Bowker, Art. "Hackers, Sex Offenders, and All the Rest". corrections.com. Archived from the original on September 14, 2018. Retrieved September 14, 2018. "World's most famous hacker Kevin Mitnick to speak at ULM Business Symposium". ulm.edu. Archived from the original on December 8, 2022. Retrieved July 20, 2023. "F.C.C. Lets Convicted Hacker Go Back on Net". The New York Times. December 27, 2002. Miller, Greg (March 27, 1999). "Judge Accepts Mitnick's Guilty Plea on 7 Counts". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on April 15, 2019. Retrieved February 16, 2020. Randolph, Donald C. "About Kevin's Case". Free Kevin Mitnick. Archived from the original on April 24, 2006. "Defense consolidated motion for sanctions and for reconsideration of motion for discovery and application for expert fees based upon new facts". Free Kevin Mitnick. June 7, 1999. Archived from the original on December 22, 2005. Shimomura, Tsutomo; Markoff, John (1996). Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnick, America's Most Wanted Computer Outlaw - By the Man Who Did It. Hyperion. ISBN 978-0786862108. Christensen, John (March 18, 1999). "The trials of Kevin Mitnick". Archived from the original on December 8, 2018. Retrieved December 11, 2018. Noory, George (January 7, 2019). "Cybercrime & Security". Coast to Coast AM. Archived from the original on January 8, 2019. Retrieved January 8, 2019. KnowBe4. "Kevin Mitnick Partners With KnowBe4". prnewswire.com (Press release). Retrieved April 18, 2020. Darlene Storm (July 19, 2012). "Interview: World's most famous hacker, Kevin Mitnick, on mobile security & Zimperium". Computerworld. Archived from the original on December 26, 2013. Alex Williams (December 20, 2013). "Zimperium Raises $8M For Mobile Security That Turns The Tables On Attackers". TechCrunch. AOL. Archived from the original on August 13, 2017. Retrieved June 25, 2017. "Kevin Mitnick's Security Advice". Wired. November 15, 2006. "Kevin David Mitnick". Dignity Memorial. Archived from the original on July 20, 2023. Retrieved July 20, 2023. "Famed Hacker Kevin Mitnick Dead at 59". SecurityWeek News. July 20, 2023. Archived from the original on July 20, 2023. Retrieved July 20, 2023. "Takedown". tcm.com. Archived from the original on March 7, 2023. Retrieved July 20, 2023. Security, Mitnick. "Lo and Behold". mitnicksecurity.com. Archived from the original on July 20, 2023. Retrieved July 20, 2023. Mitnick, Kevin; Simon, William L. (October 2003). The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security. Wiley Books. ISBN 978-0-7645-4280-0. Archived from the original on April 25, 2011. Retrieved January 14, 2009. Mitnick, Kevin; Simon, William L. (December 27, 2005). The Art of Intrusion: The Real Stories Behind the Exploits of Hackers, Intruders & Deceivers. Wiley Books. ISBN 978-0-7645-6959-3. Archived from the original on May 14, 2011. Retrieved January 14, 2009. Mitnick, Kevin; Vamosi, Robert (February 2017). The Art of Invisibility. Little, Brown and Company. ISBN 978-0-3163-8049-2. Archived from the original on July 2, 2019. Retrieved July 2, 2019. Cohn, Scott (July 26, 2016). "Greed Report: These White-Collar Manhunts Will Make Your Head Spin". CNBC. Archived from the original on February 24, 2023. Retrieved July 20, 2023. Bibliography Movies Freedom Downtime at IMDb Books Kevin Mitnick with Robert Vamosi, The Art of Invisibility, 2017, Hardback ISBN 978-0-316-38049-2 Kevin Mitnick and William L. Simon, Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World's Most Wanted Hacker, 2011, Hardback ISBN 978-0-316-03770-9 Kevin Mitnick and William L. Simon, The Art of Intrusion: The Real Stories Behind The Exploits Of Hackers, Intruders, And Deceivers, 2005, Hardback ISBN 0-471-78266-1 Kevin Mitnick, The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security, 2002, Paperback ISBN 0-471-23712-4 Jeff Goodell, The Cyberthief and the Samurai: The True Story of Kevin Mitnick-And the Man Who Hunted Him Down, 1996, ISBN 978-0-440-22205-7 Tsutomu Shimomura, Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnick, America's Most Wanted Computer Outlaw-By the Man Who Did It, 1996, ISBN 0-7868-8913-6 Jonathan Littman, The Fugitive Game: Online with Kevin Mitnick, 1996, ISBN 0-316-52858-7 Katie Hafner and John Markoff, CYBERPUNK – Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier, 1995, ISBN 1-872180-94-9 Articles Littman, Jonathan (June 2007). "The Invisible Digital Man" (PDF). Playboy. Archived from the original (PDF) on March 4, 2016. Fost, Dan (May 4, 2000). "Movie About Notorious Hacker Inspires a Tangle of Suits and Subplots". San Francisco Chronicle. Archived from the original on May 25, 2011. Retrieved April 24, 2007. Darell, Khin. "From Being Hunted By The FBI To Working Alongside Them- Kevin Mitnick". Appknox. Archived from the original on August 5, 2016. Retrieved May 27, 2016. Ehrlich, Thomas. "Renowned security expert Kevin Mitnick can steal your identity in 3 minutes". Forbes. Archived from the original on July 22, 2015. Retrieved July 17, 2015. External links Wikimedia Commons has media related to Kevin Mitnick. Official website Edit this at Wikidata Kevin Mitnick interviewed on the TV show Triangulation on the TWiT.tv network Authority control databases Edit this at Wikidata International FAST ISNI VIAF 2 3 4 5 6 WorldCat National Norway Spain France BnF data Catalonia Germany Italy Israel United States Japan Czech Republic Australia Greece Korea Croatia Netherlands Poland Academics Association for Computing Machinery CiNii Scopus zbMATH Artists MusicBrainz People Trove Other IdRef v t e Hacking in the 1990s ← 1980s Timeline 2000s → Incidents 1990 Operation Sundevil 1995 Operation CyberSnare 1998 Moonlight Maze Groups CyberThrill globalHell Global kOS L0pht Level Seven Milw0rm MOD Individuals Acid Phreak The Analyzer Condor Corrupt Cucumber Eric Bloodaxe Dark Avenger Phiber Optik Steven Games YTCracker Malware CIH Happy99 Hare KAK Melissa Michelangelo Categories: 1963 births 2023 deaths 2600: The Hacker Quarterly American computer criminals People from Los Angeles Hackers Amateur radio people 20th-century American Jews Los Angeles Pierce College people Fugitives wanted by the United States 21st-century American Jews 20th-century American criminals People with Asperger syndrome American writers with disabilities American people convicted of fraud Criminals from California People from Van Nuys Deaths from pancreatic cancer This page was last edited on 11 September 2023, at 16:02 (UTC). He's gone, Jim. [[1]] Crazysane (T/C\D) 00:58, 20 July 2023 (UTC) dead apparently he died of cancer or something 🤷‍♂️ 2A00:23EE:1478:219E:3051:7545:2AE4:DCE2 (talk) 00:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC) The memorial page that is being shared: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/las-vegas-nv/kevin-mitnick-11371… Skyfaller (talk) 01:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC) The problem is no one's confirming it. Just a memorial page isn't much to go on. No one on Twitter, Reddit, or Hacker News is stepping up to say specifically "I know all about this and know independently of this memorial page that Kevin is dead". Entities like 2600 or Jason Scott are just retweeting the memorial. Is Kevin Mitnick dead? Probably yes. But given that he was famous in particular for social engineering, there's a bit of niggling doubt there about him or someone else up to shenanigans... --Gwern (contribs) 01:09 20 July 2023 (GMT) A member of the hacking community, MG, claims on Twitter to have independently confirmed this but as of now has provided no additional sources. Also Security Week has reported it, citing "SecurityWeek sources" in addition to the memorial page. Replysixty (talk) 01:27, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Can someone protect the page to stop the back-and-forth unsourced edit-warring? Nicolas09F9 (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Yet another source [2], not to mention the Obituary is definitely legit. --Neøn (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2023 (UTC) And now the Sun as well. I think this should be enough. Replysixty (talk) 01:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC) I guess there's no way to block the reverts that will predictably follow.. -- Neøn (talk) 01:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC) After a discussion with User:GeneralNotability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GeneralNotability#Kevin_Mitnick) I've restored what I believe was the best version to come out of this back-and-forth editing, featuring the obituary and the SecurityWeek article. At this point, the back-and-forth has mostly slowed, so hopefully we can leave it at this... demize (t · c) 02:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Confirmed by multiple sources, including New York Times. See: [3] Lexlex (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 July 2023 (2) This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. He died on the 16th of july not the 19th of july ComuterK1d (talk) 02:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:00, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 July 2023 (3) This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. Please change in "Death" July 21,2023 to July 20, 2023 Fischdix (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Please disregard changes, correct date is July 16, 2023. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/las-vegas-nv/kevin-mitnick-11371… Fischdix (talk) 14:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC) This page was last edited on 29 August 2023, at 01:10 (UTC). Contribution credits and vanities I put this in here, for the record, in case this article gets longer. Most Mitnick stories, including his own, tell of the penetration by Mitnick and his friends of what is called, reverentially, "The Ark" at Digital Equipment Corporation. Although rare at that time outside of DEC, inside there was a whole network of computers with addresses using up to six RAD-50 characters. ARK:: was the address of the RSTS development system. It was nothing special, just another PDP-11/70, and certainly not the sanctum sanctorum of Digital software that he makes it sound. Most operating system people in DEC at the time thought downloading old RSTS sources was a hilarious waste of time. I worked on a better OS on KERMIT:: and ALIEN::, that RSX guy, Ortolan88 05:37 Jan 28, 2003 (UTC) Removed: "Today, Kevin Mitnick is widely regarded as a pioneering cracker whose prosecution by the government was overblown to the point of injustice." See Wikipedia:Avoid weasel terms. -- Cyan 09:39, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC) 2600 documentary I added information about the 2600 documentary, freedom downtime, links to freekevin.com, freedomdowntime.com, and an image from his company website to the right of the page. --drago9034 12:30, Nov 9, 2003 In view of the quality of later edits, and the rather strange allegations made by 219.39.... I suggest removing all his edits, unless he/she comes up with some sources to confirm what he writes. Was it possible that the revert before mine was intended to revert all the anon edits but failed because of the change of IP address? DJ Clayworth 18:48, 21 May 2004 (UTC) "Hacker" n "Cracker" The first sentence calls him a "hacker", even though he fits the definition of "cracker" (including the definition given by Wikipedia). He doesn't fit the primary definition of "hacker", as given by the Wikipedia or that most any hacker would use. I don't see how "cracker" is a "weasel term". Wikipedia defines cracking as "the act of compromising the security of a system without permission from an authorized party" -- which is precisely what Mitnick did. That doesn't seem any more weasely than, say, calling Al Capone a "gangster". It's what he did. It's also confusing: it seems to imply that hacking is a criminal activity, yet the (primary) definition of "hacker" doesn't mention criminal activity. The "hacker" article lists him as a "notable hacker[] who ran afoul of a government", which is exceedingly generous. At the very least, I think we should add an adjective here to distinguish what he did from what most hackers do -- "security hacker", for example, though that still feels too generous. Why can't we just call him a "security cracker", like he is? Perhapse I'm wrong, but I don't think the "weasel term" comment refered to the term "cracker" so much as the context of the term, i.e. "is widely regarded as" They are both inappropriate and should be avoided. Cracker and Phreak are both jargon. Very few people know what the term means, everyone knows the term hacker in the sense used here. It is what the little runt called himself. Mitnick and his like have unfortunately captured this word now. The term hacker means computer criminal in the popular mind. The OED (2nd ed) contains both definitions, it does not contain cracker defined in this way and is pretty unlikely to. --Gorgonzilla 01:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC) "Hacker" should be removed from the opening description, as the original poster noted, it incorrectly implies that "hacking" is a crime. He should be described as having illegally accessed corporate computer equipment, or some similarly descriptive phrase. I suppose Gorgonzilla is correct that "cracker" is too jargony. -Pete 04:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC) Cracker is both the correct term and a commonly used term for describing this type of activity. It has been used in news reports and articles intended for the general public. Using the term hacker is incorrect. Wikipedia should probably try to avoid being incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.185.203 (talk) 15:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC) Kevin was a Malicious Hacker = The term hacker is ther term adopted by the media in general and by the hackers themselves. I am entirely familliar with the MIT use of the term, I worked at MIT. It is unfortunate that the crackers have appropriated this term but they have been successful in doing so. Attempting to redefine the term at this stage is futile. If you want to refine the term, point out that Kevin was frequently vindictive and malicious. He is also pretty unrepentant, he still whines about the length of the prison term he got, I don't think it was enough. Kevin is still a hussler, its just that his latest scam, security consulting is at least legal even if it is difficult to see how any client could trust him. HallamBaker Oh dear. You have no idea how he could make money because, and I quote, "it is difficult to see how any client could trust him". Well, its always good to know that even people who can go to MIT will still be too stupid to do anything good with their life. Especially if such a simple thing escapes them. 58.170.161.3 (talk) 16:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC) Harlequin Mitnick nukes the world "while also held in solitary confinement for eight months "in order to prevent a massive nuclear strike from being initiated by me via a prison payphone." The nuclear strike would hit New York city and surrounding areas and also hit the outskirts of South Korea by whistling the secret passcode in to the receiver" What the hell? Is this Dr. Strangelove crap real? Gamaliel 02:43, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC) I found reference to Mitnick's assertion that there were unreasonable fears that he could whistle into a phone and start a nuclear war, but I could find no reference to the NYC and South Korea bits, so I removed them. If someone wishes to reinstate them, proper attribution of who said or asserted it should be included. AdmN 18:56, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC) Copyright vio sorry to rain on the parade, but the following section section appears to be taken from here: http://www.takedown.com/bio/mitnick.html "It was the fifth time that Mitnick had been apprehended for a computer crime, and the case attracted nationwide attention because, in an unusual plea bargain, he agreed to one year in prison and six months in a counseling program for his computer "addiction." It was a strange defense tactic, but a federal judge, after initially balking, bought the idea that there was some sort of psychological parallel between the obsession Mitnick had for breaking in to computer systems and an addict's craving for drugs" This is interesting. Isn't it ? :) I once read something that suggested that some people who break into secure/forbidden things (like a network) enjoy it the same way some guys enjoy penetrating a virgin. Armedblowfish 22:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC) 3 years >From what I know, he was actually not allowed to use a computer up until 2004. He was supposed to be banned from using any computer or cellular phone for 3 years after his latest release from Jail, in 2001. also, in my opinion, the physical isolation from any type of computer, phone, etc. was seen as failure on the part of the authorities, who failed to catch Mitnick for so many years. aside form that, even though I don't suggest that anybody take up a career in hacking or cracking, i must say the man was a genius. --Zeerus 01:27, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC) I could be wrong, since my knowledge of such terms is limited, but isn't what Mitnick did normally known as "phreaking?" And if so, shouldn't the article refer to him as a "phreaker" rather than "cracker" or "hacker?" He was both, but the majority of his illegal activity centered around breaking into computer equipment rather than manipulating telephones, so "phreaker" would be a secondary label. Gary D Robson 22:17, 29 November 2005 (UTC) In one of the books about him (don't remember which one), it detailed how he was able to provision himself telephone features such as Caller ID through both social engineering and accessing the switches, before those features were available to the public; accessing the switches would certainly fall into phreaking. And he and one of his buddies would reprogram the switches in order to win dial-in radio contests. MeekMark 02:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC) I placed the article in Category:2600: The Hacker Quarterly since Mitnick spoke at HOPE, writes articles, etc... Paul 07:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC) The supposed bus hack as a kid Smacks of what I know of Bill Gross personally. And that he was 5 years too late for it ... - Sparky 16:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC) Kevin Mitnick as a ham radio operator One thing I wanted to put in the article was that Kevin Mitnick is an amateur radio operator. Where do you think it would fit? Ryan 23:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC) Kevin D. Mitnick, N6NHG. General class amateur radio license. (Information from the FCC Database) --147.126.46.147 01:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC) That's no Genius! In rebutle to the above, Mitnick is no genius: Many, many people have the knowledge to do what he did; Mitnick used his knowledge for breaking the law and getting caught and going to jail, instead of doing something constructive and making money. That's no genius, that's one stupid dummy. (Not signed) Well, he's pulling probably $3-500k a year in speaking fees right now, plus royalties on 2 books - one a best seller. That's a lot better than a senior Unix admin, right? Is there a bit of anger there...perhaps? Wanna tell us about it? 24.126.126.105 06:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC) Genius as defined by WP is "Great intelligence, who shows an exceptional natural capacity of intellect, especially as shown in creative or original work." well the first part is inarguably correct the second part is the dispute, one could easily argue he was neither creative nor original. I think the most correct term would be extraordinarly cunning.Colin 8 20:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC) No bail hearing How about the fact that Kevin was kept in jail without a Bail hearing? Not "without bail"- lots of criminals have bail denied, but until Mitnick, every accused person was allowed to have a Bail Hearing. ....from the transcript of the March 30, 1998 hearing: [Defense counsel making reference to the bail motion while addressing other motions currently pending before the Court.] Mr. Randolph: Inasmuch as I have filed and I believe the Clerk has set a motion to have bail set on behalf of my client and that is set-- The Court: I am not going to give your client bail. Mr. Randolph: I think the matter is set for next Monday, your Honor, at 1:30. The Court: Well, I may take it under submission without oral argument because I am not going to give him bail. also- The Bail Reform Act of 1984 ("Act"), mandates that pretrial detention is permissible only where: "after a hearing pursuant to the provisions of [18 U.S.C. § 3142(f)], the judicial officer finds that no condition or combination of conditions will reasonably assure the appearance of the person as required and the safety of any other person and the community." 18 U.S.C. § 3142(e). In this case, the district court's order was substantively flawed in that it failed to find that no conditions will reasonably assure his appearance or the safety of the community, as required by substantive due process. Furthermore, the district court's order was procedurally flawed in that the court refused to hold a hearing during which evidence relevant to this determination could be presented. 12.110.196.19 03:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC) What did he do? I know this might sound like a stupid question, but the article doesn't actually describe what he did, beyond a vague reference to some companies and that he was convicted of wirefraud. Much more space is dedicated to his incarceration than his actual crimes. Seems to me that this is something that needs to be added. I doubt that I am qualified to do so. Porphyrous 15:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC) Dude, that's right but if you want to know that details READ the damn book ! I just finished it yesterday (Takedown) and it explain all in details. Excellent book written by markoff & shimomura. Do not read Takedown. It's a fictitious load of bull. You want to know what Mitnick did and how he was persecuted? Find and watch the documentary Freedom Downtime from 2600 films. Yes, if you are interested in a vitriolic paranoid's opinion, presented as fact. 72.198.221.25 09:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC) Read the book? READ THE BOOK? Are you a complete ***** moron.(profanities aren't necessary) This is wikipedia. If we get the information, we shall put it in. If it is sourced, we shall establish it. We do NOT leave shit out simply because it would "spoil the ending" of a book. Shit, we dont leave shit out on the pages of books and movies, instead going into spoilerific plot details. Get the .... out. 58.170.161.3 (talk) 16:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC) Harlequin More content anyone? I've seen two hour documentaries over this guy. Surely someone can cram more crap in here? It never mentions any of the stuff he did. Not only does it fail to explain why he's infamous (other than he committed wire fraud, and if I did that, I'd probably not be famous, right?), but the seemingly second-most important thing is that a bunch of people deface his website. That should be close to the last thing in the article because it really doesn't say much about him. Unfortunately, we need sources for everything. So someone needs to pick up a book and read it. Seriously, this article is disappointing for what I expected. I expected to learn things I didn't already know. Instead, I'm finding I know things that aren't listed here (though I can't add it because I can't cite "Ziggythehamster's brain"). Thanks to anyone who can help. Ziggy the Hamster 05:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC) It seems odd that this article doesn't mention the 1994 Christmas attack against Tsutomu Shimomura. See http://www.totse.com/en/hack/hack_attack/hacker03.html for information concerning that attack. 66.134.227.18 09:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC) Mitnick in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories He isn't credited in the credits! It musn't be right! Please respond! ProSieben 15:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Just for clarity... I'm splitting the references to him in popular culture into their own section, leaving "Recent activities" specifically for things that he's done. TankRamp 13:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC) vandals some retard actually used the words "haxor" and "pwned" Wikipedia needs a retard pole to keep editors away it may also need a giant smacking stick for people who use bad language to complain about bad language. Edgeways 04:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC) I must say This article is remarkably poorly written. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.250.176.23 (talk) 18:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC). Where did the books go? Weren't there articles covering John Markoff and Tsutomu Shimomura's Takedown(missing), and Jonathan Littman(missing)'s The Fugitive Game(missing). There are no deletion logs. Weird. I could have sworn... --Lexein 07:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Early life - removing anti-Semitic content "Kevin Mitnick had a Jewish upbringing." What does this statement mean, beyond simply claiming that he is Jewish? There is no citation, and no further details provided. Why is this statement relevant here at all? Given the descriptions of unscrupulous conduct in other parts of this article, it appears that the intention is an anti-Semitic insinuation. So I am removing this comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ygale (talk • contribs) 09:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC) I understand your concern. It wouldn't be the first time antisemitism has been skewed under the guise of something else. However, I am Jewish myself and would be horrified by such a thought. Kevin Mitnick isn't as bad as the press and court portrayed him, and today he uses his talents to help others. Fact is that wikipedia articles often bring origins and religion in their articles. Kevin Mitnick is Jewish, demanded kosher food in prison and after being released in 1989, a therapist suggested he spend some time at a treatment center for addicts. Thus, Kevin spent several months at Beit T'Shuvah, a treatment center for Jewish ex-cons with addiction problems and no place to go. So you might leave it out if you want. I think the guy is of a great intelligence and just proves another great Jewish mind. Wow...just wow. And they say we have enough problems on the Israeli boards with the same type of morons claiming criticism of Israel is "Anti-Semitic". And the racism and ignorance in the latter post makes it even worse. No, saying that hes Jewish is NOT anti-semitic. I have no idea what backwards, bigoted, ignorant hole you crawled from to reach such a conclusion...but next time, regardless of whether it was true and/or sourced, maybe take a look at the article and take a guess that an editor must have thought he was Jewish because of his last name. 58.170.161.3 (talk) 17:00, 8 March 2009 (UTC) Harlequin Myths I am a little confused that "Hacked into Tsutomu Shimomura's home computer" is listed as a myth, when the citation to support this is a link to the site and seems to indicate that Mr Mitnick did in fact break into Mr Shimomura's system. So my question is: is this incorrectly placed as a myth, or is there a different citation to support it being a myth? Jockm (talk) 16:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC) The link supports the fact that there is such an accusation. There needs to be a link debunking it, though :| Crimson30 (talk) 23:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC) I am going to remove the whole myths section for now... sources saying that an accusation was made is entirely different from a source to show that it's a myth, and from a glance at the section it looks like many, if not most or all, are not adequately supported. Even someone claiming that they are myths would not be verification that they are myths, because there are people who make disputing claims all the time. It's pushing POV to assume that one side is correct. DreamGuy (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Kevin Mitnick myths Hacked into NORAD[1][2][3] "Theft of... at least 20,000 credit card numbers from computer systems around the nation"[2][3] Issued a false press release for Security Pacific Bank causing a $400 million loss in market capitalization[1] Changed a judge's TRW credit report[1] Turned off the utilities of an FBI agent[2][4] Vandalized many government, corporate and university computer systems[5][3] Hacked into Tsutomu Shimomura's home computer[3] Harassed actress Kristy McNichol[2] Hacked Microsoft Redmond campus databases The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security, by Kevin Mitnick (2002, Hardback ISBN 0-471-23712-4, Paperback ISBN 0-7645-4280-X) Freedom Downtime made in 2001 by Emmanuel Goldstein and produced by 2600 Films A Most-Wanted Cyberthief Is Caught in His Own Web by John Markoff 1995 New York Times Takedown (film) made in 2000 by Joe Chapelle and produced by Miramax 2600 Live Mitnick interview, 2600 Magazine, Released January 2003, Run time: 1 hr 18 min 5 sec ALIAS? "Mitnick guest starred in a first season episode of Alias. The casting was an in-joke, since Mitnick played a CIA hacker. Due to the conditions of his parole, however, the computer he used in the scene was a prop." Does anyone know which episode this was? Sephiroth storm (talk) 16:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC) REF tags seem screwy The ref tags on this page seem screwy. They look like they need to be fixed. This is a ping to anyone with experience using the new ref system to fix them. Thanks in advance. — fcsuper (How's That?, That's How!) (Exclusionistic Immediatist ) — 13:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Question about the court hearing of Mitnick video [1] Im wondering why at 2:03 the judge doesnt even listen to Mitnick, is this not an unfair trial..? Pickysticks (talk) 13:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Quality of Style? There is a cleanup tag on this article, what specificly is requested? Sephiroth storm (talk) 05:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Who is Suzy Thunder? How does she relate to Kevin Mitnick again? It says in the article that she was the one who told authorities that Mitnick could cause a nuclear war by whistling into a telephone. I do not think this information is accurate. Searching Google Video for hacking yields a 50 min video about hacking, and in it Kevin Mitnick himself says that during one of his trials, the prosecutor told the judge that if he [Kevin Mitnick] had access to the payphone inmates used to contact their families, he could start a nuclear war. At this time this movie can be found at, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5512733670886412215&q=hacking&hl=en Susan Thunder was a girl enamored of Kevin in the late eighties. He blew her off and she got pissed and started blabbing. She's now a prostitute in 'Vegas and does pretexting on the side for extra cash. stories, including his own, tell of the penetration by Mitnick and his friends of what is called, reverentially, "The Ark" at Digital Equipment Corporation. Although rare at that time outside of DEC, inside there was a whole network of computers with addresses using up to six RAD-50 characters. ARK:: was the address of the RSTS development system. It was nothing special, just another PDP-11/70, and certainly not the sanctum sanctorum of Digital software that he makes it sound. Most operating system people in DEC at the time thought downloading old RSTS sources was a hilarious waste of time. I worked on a better OS on KERMIT:: and ALIEN::, that RSX guy, Ortolan88 05:37, 28 January 2003 (UTC) Fake IDs? The article, as it reads right now, makes it sound like Mitnick spent 5 years in jail for having 4 fake IDs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.126.10 (talk) 08:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC) first sentence In the first sentence is explained Mitnick was incarcerated for more than four years without trial or a bail hearing. Is this fact more important than his actual conviction? According to the next section there was a trial. --78.34.4.52 (talk) 22:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC) That was clearly inappropriate. Thanks for removing it. DreamGuy (talk) 15:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC) Though I agree it should not be the first sentence of this article, there needs to be some non-implied reference made of the extraordinary length of his pre-trial confinement without a bail hearing. It is in all probability likely record-setting, and the most fascinating aspect of the case. ((Anonymous, 14:58:22 3 Sep 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.96.17 (talk) 15:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC) "Free Kevin" Is it worth mentioning the "Free Kevin" movement and associated banners/stickers/shirts/etc. that were for a period of time nearly ubiquitous in certain circles? Not quite as widespread as, say, "Free Mumia", but it seems like it was a significant aspect of his popular fame (see e.g. this discussion). --Delirium (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC) Coin-toss as to whether it should be a subhead or a separate article. Definitely worth mentioning. — Adrian~enwiki (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC) FYI, I came hoping to read about that whole "Free Kevin" movement and yet I found nothing. I have spent the last two hours crying on the floor curled up in the foetal position because of this. So please add that info. Thanks!--72.1.222.80 (talk) 00:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC) I'll see what I can do. I do own "Freedom Downtime", and I'll see what else I can find. Sephiroth storm (talk) 11:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Cleanup I think this article needs a complete overhaul and rewrite. Instead of just tearing it apart, I'm going to propose my major changes here for discussion. If no one has any objections, I will go ahead. To start: The entire "Skills" section should be removed. It is completely unsourced and unencyclopedic. The "Downfall" section should be renamed to "FBI arrest" and reduced to what there are currently sources for. The "Controversy" section should be rewritten and unsourced material removed. The "Attacks on Mitnick's sites" section should be removed. It is not relevant to a biographical article, and it is poorly sourced. The "Recent activities" section should be rewritten as prose, and all unsourced material should be removed. Anything that is sourced to http://www.freekevin.com should be removed because that site now appears to be down. The "In popular culture" section should be rewritten as prose, and all unsourced material should be removed. After all of that, I am willing to find neutral, reliable sources and begin rewriting the article. Thoughts? --Mus Musculus (talk) 19:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC) Removing things cited to web sources which are now down is not standard procedure, afaik. That is the reason we have accessdate fields in the citation templates. In all likelihood the site is still available from the internet archive. Finding extant sources would be ideal, but there isn't, imo, any reason to remove the info.—WAvegetarian (talk) 19:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC) Good point. So are you more of the opinion that we can leave most information while we seek out sources? One strategy would be to only remove unsourced material that violates WP:BLP. For example, we would not want to state that Mitnick engaged in any illegal activities that we don't immediately have a source for. --Mus Musculus (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC) This article is terrible, one of the first things it states is that "he is considered a criminal by some, but has also gained many supporters who generally argue he was made a scapegoat and that his punishment was excessive" This is a huge POV, and also weasel words at the same time. First is "he is considered a criminal by some" this is clearly designed to give the impression he isn't really a criminal and that implication is furthured by "but he has also gained many supporters". He is by definition a criminal by having been convicted of crimes, and who are these "many" supporters?, how does the person who edited this know what they generally argue?, where are the citations for this statement? and who do these "many supporters" say he was a scapegoat for?. I am going to change this to "Though Mitnick has been convicted of computer related crimes and possesion of several forged identification documents, his supporters argue his punishment was excessive". I removed the dead link to http://littlegreenguy.fateback.com/chapter1/Chapter%201%20-%20Banned%20Edit… More than that, the domain is an untrusted site according to WOT --InfoGathering (talk) 16:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC) This article reeks of bias. You would never know that he was arrested 5-6 times for repeated computer crimes based on what is written here. Instead we get the impression that Mitnick is an innocent hero who is wrongly convicted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.68.248 (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Odd ordering of sections. I see no good reason for this BLP to not match most of our other BLPs in putting things in a reasonably chronological order, so I am editing that. If there's a good, substantive reason, please explain back here. Otherwise, it almost seems to be pushing emphasis on the arrest and conviction in an undue manner. ThuranX (talk) 05:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Feel free. Actually, I should add some more recent information about him, If I can find any. Sephiroth storm (talk) 13:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Additional Info I Researched Years Ago - Please Consider Adding I did a lot of research for a website I did in the early 2000's about actress Kristy McNichol. I found news clippings I got on eBay about how McNichol was being terrorized in the early 1990's with her phone cut off. This guy Mitnick was responsible for the activity that he went to prison for. This info is overlooked on this page that I believe warrants consideration. If anyone has any cites to use it would be much appreciated. Mitnick referred to this accusation in his book as being bogus, but he was put in jail partly for his crimes against McNichol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.127.57.44 (talk) 06:26, 16 August 2011 (UTC) Alleged Crimes I know this wouldn't stand legally, but many of the alleged crimes are described in detail how he did them in "Ghost in the Wires." How should that be modified? Kalak55 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC). Sources? "He was also the former record holder of the fastest computer attack in the world (1988-2008) until succeeded by the Lebanese Hussein el Husseini A.K.A (The Napster) on June 26 2008, Husseini bettered Minitck by almost a full minute on the military firewall belonging to the pentagon he was responsible for what was known to be as the biggest military hack in history." No sources given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurapix (talk • contribs) 23:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC) .112.98.186|talk]]) 02:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC) Much additional sourcing, fact and POV checking is required per WP:BLP. Laval (talk) 17:48, 5 September 2013 (UTC) I agree with the above assessments and have been trying to neutralize some of the content and add some credible sourcing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boorsours (talk • contribs) 11:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC) "Social Engineering" The term social engineering is misused in this article. Asking a bus driver a question and getting a reply is not social engineering, it's asking a question. If any flimsy pretext existed by which this could even be classed as any form of engineering; social it certainly is not. Social engineering is the attempt to manipulate society, not an individual in a "one off" incident. The same applies to the other incidents in which phone numbers, passwords etc. were obtained. The misuse of this term now includes various forms of computer malware, also inappropriately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.2.92 (talk) 06:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC) That is the correct use of social engineering in this context. Mitnik uses that term in his autobiography to describe what he was doing. To me, it seems that the expression "social engineering" includes asking, lying, and impersonating people/job titles to obtain sensitive information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.141.202.117 (talk) January 4, 2012 Agree entirely with the above. I have attempted to reconcile the fact that it's typically known as "con artistry" or "confidence trick" by noting "social engineering" in parallel alongside the more common term of "confidence trick". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boorsours (talk • contribs) 11:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC) Finding balance, finding sources Parts of this article read like promotional material for Kevin Mitnick... e.g. the Consulting section, which includes not one WP:RS to support its claims. Similarly, "Kevin at Defcon 2014" needs to reflect the single source that took note of his activity there, http://www.forbes.com/sites/ehrlichfu/2014/08/15/renowned-security-expert-k… I did try to improve that section already, however. HouseOfChange (talk) 23:29, 16 November 2014 (UTC) Computer Hacking Section ...a crime he was charged with and convicted of... The grammatical version would be: ...a crime with which he was charged and of which he was convicted... 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Censorship: Twitter Takeover Totally Panics Political Regime of LeftLibDemSocMediaTechPol
by grarpamp 21 Sep '23

21 Sep '23

“They would rather self-immolate than give up their censorship programs. This shows you how deeply committed they are to Orwellian control of the narratives and global discourse. Scary,” "Want to see the whole world lose their shit? Get Peter Thiel to partner with Elon and raise the bid for Twitter" The corrupt US Left is in total freakout mode, and they don't have enough to fend off those intent on finally cancelling their fraud, lol. Regardless of outcome it is distributed uncensorable systems that must now be created and prevail over all such legacy systems. Twitter Facebook Google and Fake News Media... "fuck them all in their fucking faces". This is old school takeover, for even more fun just wait till the freedom loving cryptoanarchist $TeraCap starts to swing its massive dick around. It's working. Musk Speaking To Co-Investors As Twitter Board Adopts "Poison Pill" To Thwart Hostile Takeover In an attempt to move along his hostile takeover following Twitter's adoption of a poison pill takeover defense (see below), the NY Post reports that Elon Musk is speaking to potential co-investors who could partner with him on a bid for the social network, and cites sources according to whom a new plan that includes partners could be announced within days. One possibility is teaming with private-equity firm Silver Lake Partners, which was planning to co-invest with him in 2018 when he was considering taking Tesla private, and whose Co-CEO Egon Durban is already a Twitter board member and led Musk’s deal team during the 2018 failed effort to take Tesla private, sources said. Silver Lake declined to comment. Whether Musk would present Twitter with an entirely new offer — perhaps raising his current bid — or whether new partners would simply go in on a purchase with him isn’t clear. A Musk spokesperson declined to comment. As we predicted earlier (see below), one way to circumvent Twitter's Poison Pill is for Musk "to be joined by one or more like-minded, anti-censorship investors such as Peter Thiel who either build up stakes through the poison pill 15% limit in the process making a management and board replacement by proxy vote the simple outcome." And indeed, the Post writes now that the "pill may not stop other entities or people from acquiring their own shares of up to 15% of the company. Those owners could partner with Musk to force a sale, make changes in the executive ranks or push for other overhauls of the company." “This is not over,” a source close to the situation told the Post. It sure isn't because separately, Bloomberg, Reuters and the Post all report that besides Musk’s offer, Twitter has been fielding takeover interest from other parties, including technology-focused private equity firm Thoma Bravo, which is considering making a rival offer. The New York Post reported Thoma Bravo’s interest on Thursday. Additionally, Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Mandeep Singh writes that “Musk could decide to partner with Oracle, whose co-founder Larry Ellison sits on Tesla’s board and has expressed interest in acquiring social media company TikTok’s U.S. assets, and a private equity consortium that includes Thoma Bravo to thwart Twitter’s poison pill, while raising the bid 10-15% to about $50 billion.” * * * As was widely expected and reported in the aftermath of Elon Musk going hostile on Friday morning, on Saturday morning Twitter adopted a measure that will shield it from hostile acquisition bids in a desperate step to prevent billionaire Elon Musk’s offer to take the company private and make it a bastion of free speech. The board set up a shareholder rights plan, also known as a "poison pill" which as we clarified yesterday for the benefit of the company's overly dramatic, overly literal and overly snowflake employees, is not literal... Uhm, someone should probably advise employees "poison pill" is not literal... — zerohedge (@zerohedge) April 14, 2022 ... and which is exercisable if a party - read Elon Musk - acquires 15% of the stock without prior approval, lasting for one year (if the pill had expired the day after the midterms it may have been a bit too obvious). The plan seeks to ensure that anyone taking control of Twitter through open market accumulation pays all shareholders an appropriate control premium, according to a statement Friday. For a company that has struggled greatly with value creation - on Friday TWTR stock closed at $45.08, or 18 cents higher than where it closed on its first day as a public company, or $44.90 - a poison pill defense strategy allows existing shareholders the right to purchase additional shares at a discount, effectively diluting the ownership interest of the hostile party. Poison pills are common among companies under fire from activist investors or in hostile takeover situations. Under Twitter’s plan, each right will entitle its holder to purchase, at the then-current exercise price, additional shares of common stock having a then-current market value of twice the exercise price of the right. Twitter enacted the plan to buy time, Bloomberg reported citing a person familiar with the matter, although it wasn't clear time for what: at $54.20, Musk's offer represents a premium to the historical TWTR price since IPO on 92% of the time. And since the Twitter board, whose constituents are listed below... ... is about to get bombarded with a barrage of lawsuits claiming it violated its fiduciary duty, the board also said it wants to be able to analyze and negotiate any deal, and may still accept it (spoiler alert: it won't). Twitter’s board met Thursday to review Musk’s proposal - which according to the world's richest man was his “best and final” offer and who had already accrued a stake of more than 9% in Twitter since earlier this year - to determine if it was in the best interest of the company and all of its shareholders. Included in Musk’s securities filing disclosing the bid Thursday morning was a script of text he sent to the company. In it he said, “it’s a high price and your shareholders will love it.” Hilariously, one prominent - and former - investor said the offer was too low and the market reaction appeared to agree. Saudi Arabia’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said the deal doesn’t “come close to the intrinsic value” of the popular social media platform. Which is, well, hilarious since as we showed yesterday, it appears the Prince no longer has direct ownership of even one share of Twitter stock. Speaking later Thursday at a TED conference, Musk said he wasn’t sure he “will actually be able to acquire it.” He added that his intent was to also retain “as many shareholders as is allowed by the law,” rather than keeping sole ownership of the company himself. After initially surging, Twitter shares dropped 1.7% in New York on Thursday, reflecting the market’s view that the deal is likely to be rejected or to fall through. Musk first disclosed his Twitter stake on April 4, making him the largest individual investor. At the TED conference, he indicated that he has a Plan B if Twitter’s board rejects his offer. He declined to elaborate. But in his filing earlier in the day, he said he would rethink his investment if the bid failed. “If the deal doesn’t work, given that I don’t have confidence in management nor do I believe I can drive the necessary change in the public market, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder,” said Musk. * * * Previewing the poison pilll defense, on Thursday, Cameron Winklevoss, founder of the Gemini cryptocurrency exchange, tweeted (of course) that “Twitter is considering a poison pill to thwart @elonmusk’s offer." In response, Musk said that a “poison pill” move would be a "breach" of the board's fiduciary duty and could expose Twitter’s board to “titanic” legal liability. If the current Twitter board takes actions contrary to shareholder interests, they would be breaching their fiduciary duty. The liability they would thereby assume would be titanic in scale. — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 14, 2022 Winklevoss alleged in his tweet that, by adopting the poison pill tactic, Twitter was demonstrating its commitment to preserving the status quo even if it has a negative impact on existing shareholders. “They would rather self-immolate than give up their censorship programs. This shows you how deeply committed they are to Orwellian control of the narratives and global discourse. Scary,” he wrote. Twitter has repeatedly suppressed and "shadowbanned" conservative viewpoints, allegations the company has repeatedly denied. Adam Candeub, a law professor at Michigan State University, said that Twitter’s board could face legal consequences if they turn down an offer that’s financially lucrative to shareholders. “Twitter’s owned by shareholders, and the directors have to act in a way that’s in their best interests, not in the way that allows them to keep control of the corporation,” Candeub told The Epoch Times. “If they turn down a very favorable price, there will be dereliction of their legal duty, and there could be lots of legal consequences.” * * * Now that his original plan has been thwarted, Musk has said that he has a "Plan B" in stock for the company although he did not disclose what it is. As Mark Cuban pointed out yesterday... Want to see the whole world lose their shit ? Get Peter Thiel to partner with Elon and raise the bid for Twitter — Mark Cuban (@mcuban) April 14, 2022 ... one possible response is for Elon to be joined by one or more like-minded, anti-censorship investors such as Peter Thiel who either build up stakes through the poison pill 15% limit in the process making a management and board replacement by proxy vote the simple outcome, or they just raise the takeover price to a level that even the woke Twitter board can not reject. Or skip the whale investor approach entirely, and open up twitter to a mass investor buyout, in the form of a DAO, where "token holders will get to vote on what's trending and who gets verified." And of course a decentralized group of supporters for "the current thing" will create a DAO to buy Twitter. Token holders will get to vote on what's trending and who gets verified. Ok I'll stop now 😁 — Mark Cuban (@mcuban) April 14, 2022 Alternatively, Musk can take his appeal directly to his 82 million twitter followers (a quarter of Twitter's total 217 million global Daily Active Users) and have them all buy several shares, then pledge them for Elon during the next proxy vote. Because as much as Twitter wants to reject any buyout offer that will prevent it from imposing the censorship its liberal board and employees love so much, there is only so much it can do. In the end, however, the only question is how dedicated is Musk to control Twitter, because if he really wants it, he will get it.

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Revolution
by grarpamp 21 Sep '23

21 Sep '23

Yet another subject line on Revolution, a topic apparently growing among the public in these days around the world as 1984 draws near... Why The American Revolution Still Matters https://mises.org/power-market/why-american-revolution-still-matters by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12463421/Colorado-school-forced-le… https://www.americanrevolutioninstitute.org/1619-project/ https://mises.org/wire/levellers-first-libertarians https://billofrightsinstitute.org/primary-sources/declaration-of-independen… https://mises.org/wire/1787-constitution-was-radical-assault-spirit-revolut… Late last month, the administrators at a Colorado public school - with the grandiose name "the Vanguard School" - tried to force a 12-year-old boy named Jaiden to remove a Gadsden flag patch from his backpack. The Gadsden flag may be more familiar to readers as simply the rattlesnake flag with the words "don't tread on me" on it. People who are at all familiar with the American revolution know the flag is a revolutionary-era flag with a message designed to repudiate the imperial despotism imposed on the Americans by British elites. Teachers and administrators at the Vanguard School, however, were absolutely sure the flag has "origins with slavery, and the slave trade." Of course, this is exactly the kind of historical illiteracy and social-democratic revisionism we'd expect from public school teachers and administrators. "Teaching" at your average public school is mostly about running a taxpayer-funded propaganda mill and daycare center, and has little to do with the dissemination of any factual material. Thus, it is likely that the staff at this school saw on MSNBC once that the Gadsden flag is "racist" because some American conservatives wave it. The leap from this slur to the idea that the flag is a symbol of slavery is brief indeed. This whole narrative is part of the story pushed by the "1619 Project" at the New York Times which would have us believe that the American Revolution itself was all about racism and slavery. Meanwhile, the real themes and facts of the revolution - secession, natural rights, radical liberalism, violent revolution, and extreme decentralization - have all been swept aside to serve Progressives' current ideological projects. The regime's propagandists—which includes most public school employees—naturally seek to destroy and discredit all symbols of the American Revolution beyond bland slogans about "taxation without representation." This framing of the revolution makes it all very safe and does not encourage any opposition to the current regime. After all, we have "representation" now—the millionaire gerontocracy in Congress "represents" you, don't you know—so there's no reason to think revolution can be justified. If you don't like something, just vote harder. This sterile pro-status-quo interpretation of the revolution is exactly what we should expect to be taught in a government school because the correct interpretation is far too dangerous and inconvenient for the regime. The reality of the revolution, of course, is that a sizable portion of the population—from intellectual elites in cities to ordinary farmers in the countryside—grew tired of the British yoke. Animated by a radical ideology of natural rights—which we now call "classical" liberalism or libertarianism—Americans declared the established government illegitimate and seceded. It didn't have to be that way. At first the Americans had asked politely for more freedom. They even sent the Olive Branch Petition to the King. For their efforts, the Americans were declared "traitors"—that epithet so often used by despots and their useful idiots everywhere. When the British state eventually launched a war against the Americans to prevent their secession, the Americans were forced to take up arms and killed government soldiers and officials until they packed up and left the country. The revolutionaries only wanted peace and self-determination. The British refused to let them have it. The British got their response, and got it good and hard. It was all morally justified, of course: the secession, the rebellion, the disdain for the British idea of "law and order." Parliament and the Crown had attempted to destroy the Americans' human rights—the rights of life, liberty, and property as outlined by the libertarian Leveller revolutionaries in England a century earlier. As a result, the revolutionaries were entitled to protect their rights by using violence in self-defense. Naturally, today's elites ignore those parts of the American Revolution. It also now appears the Progressives have moved on to the next phase which is to discredit the revolution altogether. Thus, symbols of the revolution must be denounced as symbols of slavery, and all modern rebellion and secession declared to be "treason" or "sedition" or some other political "crime." It's okay to "rebel"—i.e., in the style of Antifa or Black Lives Matters—so long as the "solution" is always more state power. Real independence, secession, and rebellion are absolutely not allowed. The 1619 Project thus assures us the whole enterprise of the American Revolution was suspect. We're told those ill-mannered Americans should have listened to their betters in the imperial metropoles of Britain! For those who actually respect human rights, however, any attempt to craft or promote this Progressive anti-revolutionary narrative must be met with enthusiastic opposition. In the case of Jaiden at the Vanguard School, there is a happy ending. The teachers were humiliated and Jaiden's backpack remains bedecked with the Gadsden flag. It's a small victory, but a necessary one. For obvious reasons, the regime doesn't want Americans to think secession or revolution—as so well described by Thomas Jefferson—is ever an option. Ever since the counter-revolutionaries got their new centralist-nationalist constitution in 1787, the American regime has been about the maintenance and spread of federal power. The revolution, however, acts as a beacon in the opposite direction, and Rothbard has explained why: The Americans had always been intractable, rebellious, impatient of oppression, as witness the numerous rebellions of the late seventeenth century; they also had their own individualist and libertarian heritage, their Ann Hutchinsons and Rhode Island quasi anarchists, some directly linked with the left wing of the English Revolution. Now, strengthened and guided by the developed libertarian natural rights ideology of the eighteenth century, and reacting to aggrandizement of the British imperial state in the economic, constitutional, and religious spheres, the Americans, in escalated and radicalized confrontations with Great Britain, had made and won their Revolution. By doing so, this revolution, based on the growing libertarian idea pervading enlightened opinion in Europe, itself gave immeasurable impetus to the liberal revolutionary movement throughout the Old World, for here was a living example of a liberal revolution that had taken its daring chance, against all odds and against the mightiest state in the world, and had actually succeeded. Here, indeed, was a beacon light to all the oppressed peoples of the world!

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Cryptocurrency: WARNING Farage Debanked, Get The Fuck Out Of Fiat If You Want To Live
by grarpamp 21 Sep '23

21 Sep '23

If you don't have at least some life-rebooting portion of your total worth self-custodied in a high quality crypto, you're at risk of getting canceled out of life... https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674507257248116746 https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552 nitter.it Logo Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Watch Farage on @GBNEWS, Mon-Thurs at 7pm. United Kingdom nfarage.com Joined January 2009 Tweets 19,436 Following 518 Followers 1,766,576 Likes 335 Tweets Tweets & Replies Media Search Pinned Tweet Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 13,956 17,878 4,192 46,097 3,245,133 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 9h Do we really live in a free country? 1,459 2,300 293 6,773 154,494 Nigel Farage retweeted GB News @GBNEWS 11h 'If you debunk, Nigel, you get debanked.' Toby Young of the Free Speech Union discusses his personal experience with having his bank account closed, after @Nigel_Farage was also debanked. 🖥️GB News on YouTube bit.ly/3vAYaw0 148 391 26 1,030 27,633 Nigel Farage retweeted James Heale @JAHeale 11h Nigel Farage criticising Sir Chris Bryant on GB News for claiming in March 2022 in the Commons that he: “Received £548,573 from Russia Today in 2018 alone, this is from the Russian state.” Fifteen months later, Bryant has not retracted that claim spectator.co.uk/article/fact… Fact check: did Farage get £548,000 from Russia? Chris Bryant has been keen to make the most of the Ukraine crisis, demanding greater sanctions on Putin’s cronies at every turn. The Labour MP scored an early hit when he used parliamentary privilege... spectator.co.uk 50 78 3 281 Nigel Farage retweeted Konstantin Kisin @KonstantinKisin 12h Using bank account cancellations as a political weapon is insane. Short sighted people will celebrate it when it happens to their political opponents but it is a can of worms no side should ever open. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 230 1,046 24 5,515 Nigel Farage retweeted WeAreFairCop @WeAreFairCop 12h Without access to politically neutral banking, we are moving ever closer to losing our democracy in everything but name. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 52 194 5 820 Nigel Farage retweeted Matt Le Tissier🌸 @mattletiss7 12h Wow. Love or loathe him. I don’t think there are many people that would support what the banks are doing to him. 🤬 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 641 729 38 4,350 Nigel Farage retweeted Christina Jordan 🇬🇧 @CJordanjb 17h This is troubling, and outrageous. Wrong on so many levels. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 49 111 4 689 Nigel Farage retweeted Marcus Walker @WalkerMarcus 13h This is really really worrying and needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency by the government. It's functionally impossible to operate in society right now without a bank account - banks cannot have the power to remove people from society. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 134 229 8 1,034 Nigel Farage retweeted Steven J. Miller @StevenJonMiller 16h 🚨 Whatever your politics, this should concern us all. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 65 120 9 649 Nigel Farage retweeted Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie 15h This is outrageous. Can you explain yourself @RhonddaBryant? Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 290 279 16 1,367 Nigel Farage retweeted Nana Akua @Nanaakua1 13h This is horrendous.. They could target anyone of us !! Watch @Nigel_Farage tonight 7pm @GBNEWS Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 344 242 17 1,254 Nigel Farage retweeted Bruges Group 🇬🇧 @BrugesGroup 16h This is simply appalling. For years, many conservatives have backed economic policies which have been favourable to big, multinational corporations. It is time for the right to recognise them as the globalist threat they are. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 93 194 9 735 Nigel Farage retweeted Henry Bolton OBE 🇬🇧 @_HenryBolton 13h Many banks refuse to open a bank account for organisations involved in politics. Why? That's relatively new thing. The @financialombuds should clarify PEP policy. Any denial of services must justified, overseen and subject to appeal to ensure there's no political discrimination Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 29 99 4 447 Nigel Farage retweeted Leo Kearse - see me on YouTube & Headliners @LeoKearse 15h Social Credit Scores, pioneered in China, have reached the West. If you have opinions that the establishment doesn't approve of, your access to banking is cut off. It's affected Triggernometry, The Free Speech Union and it'll affect you soon. You might be thinking "oh but I have the correct opinions, this only affects people I've been told are 'bad'": 1) Future governments may decide that different opinions are wrong and they already have the precedent to do this; 2) The scope of acceptable opinion will undoubtedly narrow; 3) It's morally wrong to discriminate against people for holding lawful opinions. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 108 557 14 2,279 Nigel Farage retweeted Jeremy Brier KC @jeremybrier 15h If you invoke Parliamentary privilege to allege illegal conduct, causing a citizen to be unable to bank in the UK (or otherwise suffer harm), then: (1) You should provide the evidence; or (2) You should withdraw the claim. Or else the privilege becomes a tool of oppression. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 118 586 32 1,846 Nigel Farage retweeted Tom Slater @Tom_Slater_ 15h This financial unpersoning of people is a menace to democracy — the cutting edge of corporate tyranny. Whether or not you like or dislike Farage is completely irrelevant. Everyone needs to stand up to this now, or it will only grow and grow. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 185 368 19 1,441 Nigel Farage retweeted Neale Hanvey MP ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✊ @JNHanvey 15h I disagree profoundly with much of @Nigel_Farage’s politics - especially on #ScottishIndependence, but this is a disgraceful way to treat anyone in a mature democracy. If you thinks it’s okay “cause it’s just Farage” then don’t expect any sympathy or help when the do it to you. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 271 291 9 1,450 Nigel Farage retweeted Jason Miller @JasonMillerinDC 15h This is insane! Political persecution and cancel culture is a problem everywhere the globalists can pull the levers! We have your back, @Nigel_Farage! Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 106 249 10 903 Nigel Farage retweeted Neil Oliver @thecoastguy 15h This is extraordinary: Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 436 33 1,868 Nigel Farage retweeted Alfie Best @AlfieBestSnr 19h We no longer live in a democracy #fact Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 77 151 2 825 Load more nitter.it Logo Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Watch Farage on @GBNEWS, Mon-Thurs at 7pm. United Kingdom nfarage.com Joined January 2009 Tweets 19,436 Following 518 Followers 1,766,576 Likes 335 Tweets Tweets & Replies Media Search Load newest Nigel Farage retweeted Rupert Lowe @RupertLowe10 16h This is disgraceful. 100% behind Nigel. All decent and fair-minded people should be outraged by this. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 414 545 29 2,596 Nigel Farage retweeted Dr Philip Kiszely @KiszelyPhilip 17h I watched this earlier today. It’s taken me a while to process… If they don’t like what you think, they can close your bank account. And once that happens, it’s all but impossible to open another one. We’ll see many more of these stunts in the near future. How long before they come for you and me? Apologetic but firm: you don’t share our ‘values’, so alas there is no place for you. Britain simply cannot function in this way. I never thought I’d say it, but part of me just wants to leave and never come back; surrender this car crash of a nation to the activist agenda that is hell-bent on destroying it. Has destroyed it. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 417 975 31 3,673 Nigel Farage retweeted Michelle Dewberry @MichelleDewbs 17h This is disgraceful. On my show tonight we will be debating #CBDCs the consultation at @bankofengland closes tomorrow. If you think it’s easy to do stuff like below, beware centrally controlled digital currency. It will be next level!! Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 210 515 9 1,850 Nigel Farage retweeted Alex Phillips @ThatAlexWoman 19h It’s dystopian Whatever your politics, right/left, leave/remain, having a system that enables politicians’ bank accounts to be closed for no reason is a chilling echo of the sort of thing that happens in Russia or Turkey There should be outrage from all sides I’ll wait… Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 1,220 670 62 2,815 Nigel Farage retweeted Darren Grimes @darrengrimes_ 19h This is happening A LOT now. Without a bank account, you cannot function. Unless there is clear evidence of being up to no good (the law), there can be no justification for the banking world's ability to effectively form a cartel that refuses accounts over its owner’s politics. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 489 565 21 2,252 Nigel Farage retweeted Bad Education. @LKidsalone 19h If you think this is a good thing just because its Nigel Farage, then you're seriously deluded. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 57 136 5 762 Nigel Farage retweeted The New Culture Forum @NewCultureForum 19h Orwellian in the most fundamental and frightening sense. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 34 118 586 Nigel Farage retweeted Bo @KingBobIIV 19h You can delight in this or realise, you could be next. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 163 153 5 863 Nigel Farage retweeted Howard Cox @HowardCCox 19h Nigel, you have always had the establishment against you. This is more than disgusting, it has to be illegal. You are hitting every woke raw nerve and they simply can’t debate, so like Putin they try to eliminate the opposition. Sick sick! You have 0000000s behind you Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 157 294 11 1,252 Nigel Farage retweeted أبو عمّار @MaajidNawaz 19h As I forecasted on @joerogan over a year ago, globalists are now closing bank accounts of political adversaries This was done to me by my accounting firm (2009) & HSBC US account (2010) This is why Central Bank Digital Coupons (CBDC) are dangerous, why cash must be kept alive. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 140 1,858 60 4,678 Nigel Farage retweeted Charlie Thompson @CharlieRefUK 19h Reguardless of your politics this should be concerning to everybody Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 22 103 2 468 Nigel Farage retweeted Andrew Neil @afneil 17h If this is anywhere near a fair and accurate account of the situation — and it looks to me that it is — then it really is quite the story. And very troubling. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 1,175 1,869 111 7,699 Nigel Farage retweeted Gareth Roberts @OldRoberts953 19h This cannot be tolerated. It’s like something from a failed state. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 96 144 2 956 Nigel Farage retweeted Richard Tice 🇬🇧 @TiceRichard 19h Truly disgraceful by British Establishment entities to shut Nigel down Metro Bank did same to @reformparty_uk in Aug 2021; no reason given. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 581 868 42 2,947 Nigel Farage retweeted Adrian Hilton💎 @Adrian_Hilton 18h This is outrageous. Whatever you may think of @Nigel_Farage personally, or of Brexit politically, it is intolerable that banking facilities can be summarily withdrawn from a person who is operating wholly within the law. Perhaps someone needs to establish The Freedom Bank. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 350 251 15 1,185 Nigel Farage retweeted Toby Young @toadmeister 18h This is an absolute disgrace. We need to change the regulations so payment service providers cannot withdraw service from customers for purely political reasons. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 932 957 46 3,572 Nigel Farage retweeted Peter Whittle @prwhittle 18h This should alarm every one of us. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 237 214 10 1,157 Nigel Farage retweeted Craig Murray - @CraigMurrayOrg 18h This is absolutely wrong. I don't care how much you disagree with Nigel Farage's politics - and I disagree with him fundamentally. It is precisely the same thing as has just happened to Stuart Campbell. A really chilling attack on those who do not comply with Establishment approved thought. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 102 377 17 1,295 Nigel Farage retweeted Iain Dale ⚒️🇺🇦 @IainDale 18h This is outrageous in a free society. And while im about it, many congratulations to @nigel_farage on his award. Totally deserved. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 426 411 24 2,576 Load more nitter.it Logo Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Watch Farage on @GBNEWS, Mon-Thurs at 7pm. United Kingdom nfarage.com Joined January 2009 Tweets 19,436 Following 518 Followers 1,766,576 Likes 335 Tweets Tweets & Replies Media Search Load newest Nigel Farage retweeted Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 18h We call ourselves a democracy, but our banks are increasingly refusing to serve politicians with views they don’t like. What’s happened to @Nigel_Farage is NOT a one off Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 1,321 858 81 3,397 Nigel Farage retweeted Laurence Fox @LozzaFox 18h We should all be very concerned about this. If they can remove @Nigel_Farage and others you may or may not disagree with the right to transact. I can guarantee that one day it will be you. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 591 1,203 56 3,409 Nigel Farage retweeted Bernie's Tweets @BernieSpofforth 18h UK - It doesn’t matter what you think of Nigel Farage. If you stand for democracy & freedom then you should be terrified that a citizen is having his bank accounts closed because banks don’t like his politics. Imagine what they’ll do when you have CBDCs Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 488 2,107 62 5,827 Nigel Farage retweeted Ben Kew 🏌️‍♂️ @ben_kew 19h The British political and financial establishment are debunking Nigel Farage, who remains one of the most popular and successful politicians of the 21st century. This is all happening under the country's fake "conservative" government. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 41 89 3 467 Nigel Farage retweeted Giles Sheldrick @ExpressGilo 19h Breaking: Farage threatens to leave the UK because he can’t get a bank account, effectively leaving him ‘non-existent’ Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 19h The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too. 62 48 1 235 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 20h Court of Appeal rules against the Rwanda policy. The House of Lords and the judiciary will always do their best to assist illegal immigration. France is a safe country, we should send people straight back there. 2,004 1,473 174 7,086 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 28 This old duffer has absolutely no idea what he’s doing. The Spectator Index @spectatorindex Jun 28 President Biden says Putin is 'losing the war in Iraq' 1,770 1,901 152 11,052 Nigel Farage retweeted GB News @GBNEWS Jun 28 'Proper stuff! Well done Jonny Bairstow for getting that bloke away!' @Nigel_Farage reacts to England wicketkeeper Jonny Bairstow carrying a Just Stop Oil protester off the pitch at Lord's during today's Ashes test 39 72 5 593 39,253 Nigel Farage retweeted Jason Miller @JasonMillerinDC Jun 28 Congrats to ⁦@Nigel_Farage⁩ and ⁦@GBNEWS⁩!!! 🇺🇸🇬🇧 “Donald Trump wades in on Tric Awards victory and lavishes praise on Nigel Farage - ‘He’s incredible!’” gbnews.com/news/donald-trump… Donald Trump wades in on Tric Awards row and lavishes praise on Nigel Farage - ‘He’s incredible!’ The former US president congratulated Nigel Farage on his huge win gbnews.com 47 130 3 672 Nigel Farage retweeted Media Guido @MediaGuido Jun 28 Where’s Tom Gone? order-order.com/2023/06/28/w… 15 26 2 100 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 28 The @TRICawards have now redone their tweet. Democracy wins! Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 28 Why have @TRICawards deleted their tweet saying I won News Presenter of the Year? This is a disgrace! 603 697 26 3,972 Nigel Farage retweeted TRICawards @TRICawards Jun 28 ⭐️2023 #TRICawards 🏆 Congratulations @Nigel_Farage ➡️ News Presenter 616 326 3,074 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 28 Why have @TRICawards deleted their tweet saying I won News Presenter of the Year? This is a disgrace! 2,436 1,864 203 7,866 232,545 Nigel Farage retweeted GB News @GBNEWS Jun 27 🏆 Nigel Farage is your 2023 TRIC News Presenter of the Year! 👏 An award voted for by you, the people! ▶️ Join Nigel live on GB News, Monday to Thursday from 7pm! 📺 Freeview 236, Sky 512, Virgin 604 83 236 28 1,427 22,888 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 28 This is not helping their cause. #StopJustStopOil 327 276 17 2,016 62,143 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Many thanks to Donald Trump for his congratulatory message on winning @TRICawards News Presenter of the Year. 🏆 625 711 46 4,740 63,766 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 They screamed, they shouted and they heckled me. Gosh, I enjoyed it! 🏆 GB News 702 1,157 85 7,251 222,952 Nigel Farage retweeted Ben Briscoe @BenWBriscoe Jun 27 Huge moment for @GBNEWS with two @TRICawards wins. 1. GB News Breakfast WINNER Multichannel News Programme 2023 beating Good Morning Britain. 2. @Nigel_Farage WINNER News Presenter of the Year ahead of Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid. 193 288 25 1,942 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Delighted to win TRIC News Presenter of the Year. Huge thanks to the public that voted, the small and dedicated team that work with me, and those that founded and lead GB News. This great broadcaster is going from strength to strength! 2,929 2,450 377 15,436 Load more nitter.it Logo Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Watch Farage on @GBNEWS, Mon-Thurs at 7pm. United Kingdom nfarage.com Joined January 2009 Tweets 19,436 Following 518 Followers 1,766,576 Likes 335 Tweets Tweets & Replies Media Search Load newest Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Well knock me down... The main sponsor here has apologised to me, which I have fully accepted. Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Not off to a good start here at the TRIC Awards as the main sponsor made me leave the drinks reception area. 355 385 15 3,277 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Not off to a good start here at the TRIC Awards as the main sponsor made me leave the drinks reception area. 1,086 309 92 2,431 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 Arrived at the @TRICawards with @GBNEWS! 112 126 7 1,074 5,862 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 27 The latest report into English Cricket concludes the game is "racist, sexist and classist". Behind this nonsense is a loathing for our country, our culture and who we are. Even the Barmy Army come under extreme criticism... Leave our sport alone! 822 861 70 4,245 83,484 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 26 More great work from GB News to expose this Labour councillor. gbnews.com/news/labour-party… Labour councillor hosted Islamist hate cleric at Northampton Guildhall West Northants councillor Enam Haque said it was a ‘great pleasure’ to give pro-beheading preacher tour of civic centre gbnews.com 269 978 37 3,351 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 26 How did the Home Office give radical cleric Enayet Ullah Abbasi a visa? There have been some very serious failings here @SuellaBraverman. GB News 202 630 29 2,027 44,011 Nigel Farage retweeted GB News @GBNEWS Jun 26 🚨 Coming up tonight on Farage at 7pm on GB News... 🔘 Latest on hate cleric Enayet Ullah Abbasi, who travelled to the UK for a tour which was cancelled after a GB News investigation. 🤔 Why did the Home Office let him into our country? 📺 Freeview 236, Sky 512, Virgin 604 46 72 4 278 19,114 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 26 The Usman Khawaja comment about ‘new Australians’ rather proves my point. The majority have changed their behaviour in favour of a minority — it should be the other way round! 119 124 4 560 28,009 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 24 Putin has used the Wagner Group to wreak havoc in war zones. Now they are coming back to bite him. 1,257 269 104 2,531 Nigel Farage retweeted Leo Kearse - see me on YouTube & Headliners @LeoKearse Jun 23 I wish my country had the same level of border control as Glastonbury festival 456 2,797 125 14,229 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 23 Good to see this Police officer doing his job, but the courts need to back them up. This cult need to be controlled for the sake of us all. Just Stop Oil 1,166 1,285 162 8,451 811,302 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 23 Happy Brexit Day! If we have to fight this all over again, then we will. 2,314 1,186 181 5,988 110,777 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 23 The referendum victory was a huge blow to the establishment and they have never forgiven us. express.co.uk/news/politics/… Farage warns 'the battle for Brexit is not over' on referendum anniversary EXCLUSIVE: Nigel Farage has delivered a personal message to Express readers on the seventh anniversary of the historic EU referendum. express.co.uk 1,534 952 77 4,338 Nigel Farage retweeted Calgie @christiancalgie Jun 22 To me, to you-kip 22 32 2 325 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 22 Must-watch analysis from @LiamHalligan. ⬇️ GB News @GBNEWS Jun 22 'We warned that we were going to have a wall of demand hitting an economy that's been shuttered... the establishment didn't want to hear about it.' @LiamHalligan reacts to the Bank of England raising interest rates from 4.5 to 5 per cent. 54 108 1 389 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 22 Farage at Large LIVE from Barnsley tonight at 7pm! Is it time to #ditchthedud at the Bank of England? 📺 Watch GB News on Freeview 236, Sky 512, Virgin 604. 115 56 3 334 13,033 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 22 This Lib Dem candidate could well be the next MP for Somerton and Frome. Have a listen to this excruciating interview, she will fit in well at Westminster. Kane Emerson 180 209 25 585 186,663 Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage Jun 22 Lord Hammond sums up the modern day Tory party. Mass immigration is their answer to everything. As far as they’re concerned, to hell with ordinary people getting houses, a GP appointment or living in settled communities. dailymail.co.uk/news/article… Ex-chancellor: 'UK should RELAX immigration rules to avoid recession' Mr Hammond, now a Tory peer, said that the move could act to bring down stubbornly high inflation being driven by rising wages without the need for interest rate rises hammering homeowners. dailymail.co.uk 601 1,001 60 3,298 Load more

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List conjestion
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

RE - Greg Newby " . . . There's not any straightforward way I know of to limit the number of messages per day (or another period), or the number from a particular user. . . . " So this is less " shields are down " and more " we don't have any shields ". Okay. So long as this lamentable state of affairs prevails, I suggest we let it fail then. Strong AI can take up any slack - technical or political. Oh, I did notice a list host called Groups io. Its probably nothing. >From memory the first " golden age " ( snork! ) 90's list died because it couldn't defend itself either. Turn your back on APster defence and you're even more alone.

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List congestion
by Greg Newby 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

Hi dear friends. Here is a summary of what's been going on with the cypherpunks list and server since Saturday September 16. Two factors combined that resulted in the cpunks list being temporarily throttled or rate-limited by gmail, yahoo and probably a few other big email services. One factor is Karl's rate of messaging, mentioned below. I counted 115 unique messages sent to the list over a 6-hour period on September 16. This rate of messaging is much higher than typical, and gmail and yahoo automatically started rate-limiting our messages. Here's a typical response from gmail - note that it's from today. We are still rate-limited: 77E2511C0DDF 12495 Wed Sep 20 02:09:59 cypherpunks-bounces(a)lists.cpunks.org (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.193.27] said: 421-4.7.28 [69.55.231.143 15] Our system has detected an unusual rate of 421-4.7.28 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our 421-4.7.28 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily 421-4.7.28 rate limited. Please visit 421-4.7.28 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError to 421 4.7.28 review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines. z15-20020adff74f000000b00321773bb921si909870wrp.463 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) There are currently almost 100 messages to cypherpunks that have not been delivered to gmail addresses. (This message will, presumably, soon be one of them.) The second factor is that Karl was victim of an unsubscription mailbombing attack. Over 200,000 unique IP addresses visited the page at lists.cpunks.org to send a password reminder to his gmail address. At one point there were over 33,000 messages queued up to Karl on the cpunks server. Gmail started bouncing these, too. I deleted a whole bunch that were pending and the attack stopped on Saturday night. Now, several days later, gmail is still blocking messages. The cpunks list has around 50 subscribers with gmail addresses. Those folks probably won't see this note until gmail allows messages to flow. The link above has Google's guidance on this situation. The cpunks server is fully compliant with all the technical controls like SPF, and hopefully all the messages will eventually be delivered. Meanwhile, messages always go to the list archive, here: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ To address the first issue, on Saturday I asked Karl to consider sending fewer messages per day. Combining many short messages into fewer longer messages will be less likely to trigger rate limiting on the big mail services. To address the second issue, if the problem reoccurs I can put some captcha-style blocks on the list management page(s) and/or simply disable the password reminder feature. It would be great if the problem simply doesn't occur again, though, since it has a big impact on the server and other subscribers, not just Karl. For that broader context, the cpunks server at https://lists.cpunks.org is the main production server for Project Gutenberg, from which we publish around 200 new free eBooks/month. On Saturday, messages to one of the key production coordinators who has a yahoo.com email address could not get through because yahoo, like gmail, was blocking us. Many of us will remember that historically, cypherpunks was a set of lists connected via remailers. That is something that could happen again if there is interest - certainly I would do what I can to support it. Meanwhile, though, the list lives on a single physical server. I hope this background is useful. I don't feel any need to keep this type of situation a secret, and it's the nature of cpunks that subscribers want the list to keep working. Suggestions and discussion are welcome. ~ Greg On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:50:55PM -0400, mailbombbin wrote: > i miss spamming the cypherpunks list densely > it gave me relief to know i was flooding [good people] [relief from my > learned experiences] > i’ve been thinking some of continuing it despite greg’s request > draft saved at 2149, 2147-8 > > i guess it would make sense to use a unique host > > i don’t really understand gregs emails, how are my posts issues > compared to thousands of bomb things? i imagine its complicated to > reciew, huge logs, many recipients, different error messages > > 2150

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List conjestion
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

I too asked Karl to consider sending fewer messages per day recently so this chimes with Gregs news. So long as we're on a single server I suggest an upper-cap be placed on daily contributions. As to the number I suggest a vote. Majority rules at this stage. See what youse think! Also, those posts held back might be published later. Not disappear completely. This is a tough one. What happens next might change the history of the crypto-wars.

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Giacass Zuccface does a ( Hughes, Assange type ) runner
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

This neckbeard, neo-nazi, carcass was supposed to mansplain cryptoanarchist politics for all time. Another preening, posing, posturing pimp faceplants! " . . . Giacomo Zucco, a Bitcoin educator, described how “midwits” can get in the way of Bitcoin. With comedic intentions, he highlighted that lower-intelligence Bitcoin advocates, or “80 IQ plebs,” are a force for good, while “midwits” trip up over nuance and fail to see the bigger picture.. . ." Its good this depraved moron has given up contesting the narrative. Bene, bene, molto bene! Gramps! Semich! Take Note! Bitches leave!

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DOS vulnerability, gmail and yahoo
by Karl Semich 19 Sep '23

19 Sep '23

Hi mailman-users, So you know, it looks like there is a vulnerability with mailman 2 where a third party can very aggressively spoof password reminder, unsubscription, or other requests using the web interface, queueing tens of thousands of unsolicited messages to any given subscriber. Worse, if this is done to a user of gmail or yahoo, the receiving hosts may block the mailserver’s ip address generally, preventing the delivery of legitimate list content to other subscribers using the same provider. There should probably be a rate limit on the web interface, although I understand mailman 2 is no longer developed.

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