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Anti War: Thread
by grarpamp 18 Oct '23

18 Oct '23

Because the world may be getting closer to some sort of real war, and because among some cypherpunk cadres are claims that crypto solves for everything... the great diviner of truth, and decider of right from wrong. https://www.antiwar.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-war_movement Ex-CIA Officer Asks: What Happens When America Experiences Real War With A Superpower? https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/vietnam-regurgitated/ During my first years as a young CIA officer in Vietnam from 1965-67, I went to school (so to speak) and received the real education of my life. I learned about my government, its politicians, and military leaders. I learned about the lies, the high explosive and chemical bombings, our superior fire power, villages bombed and burned, the payoffs we made to our ranking Vietnamese allies and the reasons for our losing the war. The enemy fought to unite their country and expel foreign domination. The US fought because of corrupt leadership and our losses were a mere fraction being fought on the enemy’s turf with our superior fire power, money and material support. They fought for a cause. We fought for no justifiable reason. They won. We did not. AP image: Napalm strike near US troops on patrol in South Vietnam, 1966. Remember the body bags displayed on the tarmacs of our returning dead from Vietnam? Not like the lack of media coverage today given the damage we inflict. Remember the disapproving reception of our returning soldiers? Now we celebrate them as heroes and wounded patriots. Here, at home, we have not experienced wars employing mass-destruction weapons. Maybe one day will we receive an education about the consequences of wars as a nation. Surely, we learned nothing from Vietnam as it never happened here. Our commitment to the two-decade, multi-country invasions in the Middle East have shown our cowardliness to the world if not to ourselves. Our hypocrisy is stunning. No draft, no engagement (almost no KIA’s each year). Far more troop suicides than battle deaths while displacing, killing and maiming thousands of innocent civilian lives year after year. For whom and what? And, yes, a media in full march step with these disgraceful invasions and occupations. Remember the uproar about Vietnam? Burned draft cards, asylum in Canada, draft dodgers, street demonstrations and sit-ins galore. And why not these now? The unending, shameful action by our government is making sure the public is not paying a price in people. No draft, very limited engagement with the enemy and an approving media. What more can our government and Pentagon ask for? We will keep dropping bombs and feeding others money and weapons to assist with the killing and displacing of innocent populations for us. But are these wars really for us? Certainly not. Remember George W. Bush, and his failing presidency, who was made a hero the morning after 9/11 with his WMD declaration that fooled no one but Americans? Not a sound from the citizenry. Would we try the pitiful WMD routine on China or Russia? They have the ability to hit back. The national celebration that greeted George H.W. Bush in death is a far cry from his presidency. It was not until after 9/11 that George W. Bush obeyed the lobbies’ demands to destroy Iraq that his father was resurrected and the son was hailed as our glorious leader. Remember his welcoming carrier landing which turned out to be a dud? These wars that we persist with are not only cowardly, they demonstrate our lack of respect for other nations, their people and our national conscience. Notably, they demonstrate our being a failed nation not capable of controlling or directing its own interests. We will go down in history as that most powerful, but most surrogate nation ever. Stunningly shameful with the blood of others staining our once proud national emblem. While we busy ourselves with "enemies" that we and "friendly" others have invented, we have become oblivious to the enemy within. The one taking us down.

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Cryptocurrency: Music
by grarpamp 17 Oct '23

17 Oct '23

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Cryptocurrency: Argentine President Milei Falsely Prosecuted For Promoting Sound Money, FreeSpeech
by grarpamp 17 Oct '23

17 Oct '23

Just as has happened to Trump, Socialists always try to wage false prosecution against their opponents rather than compete on the merits. Ever since the GloboHomo-Socialists (DavosWEF Soros etc) figured out Milei was running, especially after the Tucker interview, they have flown in from outside the country and tried to cancel his lead. VIVA MILEI, VIVA ARGENTINA !!! Prosecutor files case against Argentina’s frontrunner Javier Milei days before presidential election https://apnews.com/article/milei-picardi-peso-fernandez-argentina-02db52be2… https:/apnews.com/article/tucker-carlson-milei-argentina-f49c03b3b15658081e85faa2150189e7 BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — A prosecutor launched a criminal case Friday against Argentina’s frontrunner in this month’s presidential elections, accusing Javier Milei of deliberately causing a drop in the Argentine currency when he encouraged citizens not to save in pesos. Milei denounced the move as political persecution, just days ahead of the Oct. 22 polling. President Alberto Fernández had called for the investigation in a complaint filed Wednesday, saying that the right-wing populist candidate was trying to scare the public and that his actions were “a severe affront to the democratic system.” Prosecutor Franco Picardi on Friday referred a criminal case to a federal judge, going off Fernández’s accusation that claimed Milei and other candidates on his party’s ticket were inciting public fear — a charge that carries possible prison terms of up to six years. Federal Judge María Servini will later decide whether there is enough evidence to indict. Presidential hopeful of the Liberty Advances coalition Javier Milei, waves at followers during a campaign event in La Plata, Argentina, Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2023. General elections in Argentina are set for Oct. 22. Tucker Carlson erupts into Argentina’s presidential campaign with Javier Milei interview Milei is considered the frontrunner in the Oct. 22 election, after rocking Argentina’s political landscape when he unexpectedly received the most votes in August primaries that are widely seen as a massive poll of voter preferences. He pushed back against the criminal case Friday, characterizing the prosecutor as an ally of the government and saying that Picardi is “persecuting the political option most voted by the Argentine people.” In a post on social media, Milei added: “Nothing will prevent the beating we’re going to give them at the polls.” In a news conference earlier this week, Milei said those who criticized him were trying to “tarnish the electoral process or even forcibly ban the most popular political force ... because they know we’re just a few points away from winning.” In his initial complaint, Fernández cited a radio interview Monday in which Milei recommended that Argentines not renew fixed rate deposits in the local currency, saying the “peso is the currency issued by the Argentine politician, and therefore it is not worth crap.” Another member of Milei’s self-described libertarian party, a candidate for the Buenos Aires mayoralty, also called on citizens to drop the peso. “Today more than ever: Don’t save in pesos,” Ramiro Marra wrote on social media Tuesday. Marra and Agustín Romo, a candidate for the Buenos Aires province legislature in Milei’s Liberty Advances party, also were included in the prosecutor’s filing. Many of Milei’s rivals [197]blamed him for a sharp depreciation of the peso, which lost 10 percent of its value over the past week. The so-called blue rate, as the informal exchange rate is known, reached as high as 1,050 pesos to the U.S. dollar on Tuesday, a sharp increase from 880 pesos the previous week. It later moderated that increase and ended the week at around 980 pesos to the dollar. Stringent capital controls mean that access to the official foreign exchange market, which currently prices a dollar at 367 pesos, is extremely limited. Milei is a fiercely anti-establishment candidate who has said that the answer to Argentina’s red-hot inflation, which is running at around 140% per year, is to dollarize the economy. He had recently suggested the sharp depreciation of the peso could be convenient for his eventual presidency. “The higher price of the dollar, the easier it is to dollarize,” Milei said earlier this month. Polls show Milei is leading the race for presidency although he does not appear to have enough votes to win outright without a runoff next month.

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Le Ping
by grarpamp 17 Oct '23

17 Oct '23

Ze Pong

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Cpunks List: Remove The Spammer From The List
by professor rat 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

I'm pleased to inform you and your bum-buddy, Greg, that a great new way has been found to deal with unavoidable frustrations online. Get off the internet

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Paolo Ardoino - very Assange
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

Straddling the political barbed-wire fence is a great way to join the circle of eunuchs. So much Cpunk philosophy. Such excellence. https://news.bitcoin.com/tether-freezes-32-suspicious-addresses-linked-to-u… Reposts not tired repeats of two faced dread butt pirate pirroettes

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Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

traffick boss and ai limiter consider making a gladiator arena where they vie for whether or not traffick boss can do things

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Before Judith Miller there was this female journalist in Italy
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

Ledeen the NYT ashtray https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Sterling Reposts not clickbait for gossipy nitwits

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Re: cpunks listinfo down
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

i, um, am reposting dropped "content". the stopping was intended for while the list was down. MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7022:a94:b0:6a:c23b:51ee with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 10:01:46 -0400 Delivered-To: gmkarl(a)gmail.com Message-ID: <CALL-=e4zBnpryiOwkeMpSJUnQuv5y2u9Hax6hVs5gJHv7TQg8w(a)mail.gmail.com> Subject: cpunks listinfo down From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 10/16/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo > > i'll stop posting [apologies to my internal urges.]

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Re: PLEASE LET ME SLEEP OUTDOORS
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7022:a94:b0:6a:c23b:51ee with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 04:49:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CALL-=e5WnKnNwcx3-H4ie-i78SXu_MK0zibigowUw5rh7_xv=A(a)mail.gmail.com> References: <CALL-=e5G=T0SqH6EPBYHjEYSt41Yq0W_SrY4p3ZVDkO1DXyKGA(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAMjeLr-wZsM1wHF3E=qEsKr52Ye3ObdCfLVdfs0FqwqnH7W=ZA(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e76_RgozKDQk45RGiiQG5BBXSfWFuukEjyARU+Yg7fyoQ(a)mail.gmail.com> <20211228154250.4BC9411C0446(a)pglaf.org> <CALL-=e6BG67KvmQQ8aHu5YLnjBat9Jd+TRPRZ0kPWOY7GwS_BQ(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e51g+FVRNdM4ZpEqvXZ9ewwvb47h-4TSyi91ZLYVL2tQw(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e6aQxXaoZeDuE1=iPENvcuDD_1+Wpi2x32gchRdMaSUaw(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e5QFHDiVrUbrDeAaiGqk6Kodb37=9L1qj5o2+910ymN0g(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e7nDKcyVb=Yu=TRA0i6V8DiWUoV7fkTUKkgH6fg+PgMVw(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e43Bp4bpkPJHiGtF09eGe=a2=d7fodxq5dACtwWYaJ4QA(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e7p5G9wgeWJ5uur9BkPpX4BL=mTPSjpBBkHX2Foac591A(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e6gVoFCjrgvSKo8muGz-gMVdqeVTC5RDVF=hkJd=sCfYQ(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e5_e6G2ZdwpaqMKZdXu1_EJAgyS96G1O6yNSYDgN6eGCQ(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e4mLC9LLBJRgUxJ2g6cdL5vAp98xi_0AthVmEXx+QP6cA(a)mail.gmail.com> <CALL-=e5WnKnNwcx3-H4ie-i78SXu_MK0zibigowUw5rh7_xv=A(a)mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:49:58 -0400 Delivered-To: gmkarl(a)gmail.com Message-ID: <CALL-=e7JxSyE8Bur-aewd=0FZvAPOjoE+QQs=P9Lo=fO750Uvw(a)mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE LET ME SLEEP OUTDOORS From: "Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many" <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> To: coderman(a)gmail.com Cc: cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 10/16/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > (this of course applies to emailing respectfully as well as going > outdoors. we need to be ourselves >

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