July 2017 - cypherpunks@lists.ogf.org

Re: Russia's "eye-watering" military toys
by Steven Schear 11 Jul '17

11 Jul '17

With advancing commercial tech, open hardware and software, the practicality of effective, open, smart weapon and dual-use becomes eminently more likely. Warrant Canary creator On Jul 7, 2017 7:40 PM, "Steve Kinney" <admin(a)pilobilus.net> wrote: On 07/07/2017 09:52 PM, juan wrote: >>> On a related note, I see that the japanese are 'partners' or >>> forcibibly buy that kind of stuff. I assume that any weapon >>> that americunts sell is fully backdoored so I kinda wonder >>> what kind of retard can buy stuff from them...Well, the japanese and >>> many other seem to be just that kind of retard. >> <I know, I know, stating the obvious dept.> > Are you? One obvious thing here is that what the russians > produce is also backdoored. Another obvious thing is that you > can trust the russians as much as you can trust americunts. I would not be so sure. In the case of weapons earmarked for U.S. use, I would bet heavily that there are no (deliberately installed) back doors in their C&C systems: Our military leaders may be passionately ignorant and profoundly neurotic, that they are not actually stupid. Lockout functions that take significant time and effort to defeat (when enabled) I take for granted, even though for decades the unlock code for all U.S. nuclear warhead firing circuits was a string of zeros. In the case of weapons eligible for export, I would only be a /little/ less confident that back doors are not included: One wants one's allies' weapons to work as advertised, and the blowback from discovered back doors would be very costly. As is done with proprietary trade secret operating systems etc., these back doors would be called "bugs" or "design flaws" when discovered, and this hard to disprove canard would be widely accepted as fact. But when (not if) back doors weapons systems are discovered, that would be Bad For Business: Quality really counts when defending the interests of one's own billionaires from the servants of hostile overseas billionaires. The consequences of back doors discovered /and/ exploited could include personal reprisals against parties considered responsible and major realignments of global power dynamics.

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Russia's "eye-watering" military toys
by Zenaan Harkness 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/16/do-we-really-want-a-new-world-war-with-ru… Enjoyable read. Reminds me of that immortal line in the Putin documentary where the Russian navy chief points at a radar screen saying something like 'look at that, I've never seen [a destroyer class battleship] do this figure-8 move before' as the USS Donald Cook first enters then hightails out of Crimean waters. International military sparring at its best :) Z

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[RUS] TFW the winning finally stops - Putin discoveres he can't make a deal with Trump
by Zenaan Harkness 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

So sad ... http://theduran.com/video-shows-difference-putins-reactions-obama-vs-trump/

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The "energy grid hack" is back
by Razer 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

RollCall: > Congress Unnerved by Energy Grid Hack > > For months, Sen. Maria Cantwell has been warning in letters to the > Trump administration and colleagues that Congress needs to do more to > keep the nation's energy supply safe from cyberattacks. Now it appears > she has a widespread attack to bolster her admonitions. > > Reports from Bloomberg and The New York Times last week indicated that > Russian-backed hacking groups may be responsible for recent targeted > cyberattacks to nuclear power plants and grid operation system > manufacturers, threatening the electric grid and the economy it supports. > > While the FBI and Department of Homeland Security say... (blah blah) > > http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/energy-grid-hack-gets-focuses-congress > Which Energy Grid hack? The one in Burlington Vt that never happened at all on a laptop that wasn't even capable of being connected to the grid, containing malware that was 'in the wild' for years? These people are spoon feeding everyone bullshit, and everyone's eating it. Because the typical US-ejumicated idiot simply can't admit to themselves they got the absolute perfect representation of an American citizen for president. Donald Trump. So like every other world problem... PUTIN! RUSSIA! COMMIES! Note that Russia hasn't been a communist nation for decades now, and their only real threat to the US is competition for the extractive resources that make America's Five-Planet Lifestyle possible. Therein lies the 'problem' with "Russia". My nightmare is the US and Russia will call off their bullshit-in-the-best-year "Cold War", a global game of good cop/bad cop played on the 3rd world countries, and collude to rape the Earth's resources with China as the slave shop nation manufacturing products with those looted resources for the select few who can still afford it. Watch Syria. It's future partition is the testing ground for US/Russian expeditionary collaboration. Rr

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Re: [Cryptography] Trump wants to collaborate with the Russians to secure U.S. elections
by grarpamp 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Ron Garret <ron(a)flownet.com> wrote: > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753 > > "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..and safe." "Putin & I" <<< rulers "discussed forming" <<< secretly conspired behind closed doors "impenetrable"... <<< on brutality, and fiction "election hacking"... <<< because simple paper audit trails already just work "Security unit"... <<< involving gestapo "Many other negative things"... <<< neverending weasel words... "will be guarded..and safe"... <<< classic injection of fear and saviour "Many"... including pointless overclassification, and whatever the governments and cronies are doing in secret against you to levy more control and power. Be wary who you allow to cyber / sec / crypto what from you, why, and how. Most cases, especially govt ones, are more appropriately handled with abject openness if not outright eradication. > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/09/trump-suggested-a…

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WBAI 99.5FM NYC Pacifica Credico Live on Fly [re: Binney and Brown WBAI Interview]
by grarpamp 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> Randy Credico speaks with Senior CIA Analyst William Binney and NYC >> Journalist, Hactivist Barrett Brown on a Live on the Fly July 4th Special. > > https://www.wbai.org/articles.php?article=3470 The series is pretty good. Did a few with Assange. Stuff was posted here under similar subject a while back, search: wbai https://www.wbai.org/archive.php search "Randy Credico- Live On The Fly" archive: quickly as the old ones seem to disappear offline Topic: Wikileaks https://nuarchive.wbai.org/mp3/wbai_170606_170002randyCrelof.mp3

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Mexican Mass Disappearance (Iguala 2014) Investigators Targeted by NSO (Israeli) Spyware
by Razer 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

McClatchy: > > Investigators say targets of high-tech spying in Mexico included an > international group of experts sent to the country by the > Inter-American Human Rights Commission. > > The spyware previously was directed at journalists, activists and > opposition politicians in Mexico. But targeting foreign experts > operating under the aegis of an international body marks an escalation > of the scandal. > > A report released Monday by the internet watchdog group Citizen Lab > found that someone sent emails with links to the spyware to the > International Group of Independent Experts. Those experts had been > critical of the government's investigation into the 2014 disappearance > of 43 students from a rural teachers college in Guerrero state. > > The Israeli-made spyware is sold exclusively to governments. The > Mexican government bought it, but it's not clear who used it. > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/artic… Details @CitizenLab: https://citizenlab.org/2017/07/mexico-disappearances-nso/

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Binney and Brown WBAI Interview
by Razer 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

> Randy Credico speaks with Senior CIA Analyst William Binney and NYC > Journalist, Hactivist Barrett Brown on a Live on the Fly July 4th Special. https://www.wbai.org/articles.php?article=3470

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SWEDEN YES !!!
by You Fags 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

> Shawn K. Quinn skquinn at rushpost.com > Sat Jul 8 22:58:25 PDT 2017 > > This is a hoax. > And the earth is a spinning sphere flying through space. > a reliable source > also known as the Urban Legends Reference Pages Sweden is fuggidy fugged (pics & links related). Sweden to hold 'man-free' music festival: web.archive.org/web/bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40504452 Sweden to back NHS-funded womb transplants for biological males who identify as women: web.archive.org/web/europeancivilwar.com/sweden-breaks-overton-window-tange… Sweden: The number of lawless areas ("no-go zones") now totals 61: web.archive.org/web/10news.one/sweden-on-the-brink-of-civil-war-national-po… > sno pes source: > Erik Jansåker, a police chief in Malmö, told us that the > term "no-go zone" never appeared in the report itself."" > never appeared in the report > in the report > > citing traitors as source of truth > Sno pes has been debunked as biased and untrustworthy, faggot. But we all know we cannot expect truth or reason from you, pwnstar anon.

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SWEDEN YES !!!
by You Fags 09 Jul '17

09 Jul '17

> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com > Sun Jul 9 02:24:12 PDT 2017 > > shits on zulu cuz "muh feels" > c&c anon, as someone living in the beautiful country of Formerly-known-as-brazil, you must have been to favela. Or are these a hoax, too ?

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