February 2017 - cypherpunks@lists.ogf.org

Re: Net Result of Snowden
by Ryan Carboni 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

> > > And if you're up against an adversary 1 or 2 above can't handle, let us > know what your secret number 3 and grand operation was someday > before you die, become a legend ;) > > It is very simple. When facing an immense conspiracy exploit internal contradictions, and increase the degree of Clausewitzian frictions to an untenable point where the giant combine's gears are being fed sand. Take every action possible that will not worsen your situation, and do not follow your enemy's script, or failing that, follow your enemy's script but take actions in scrambled order. Sometimes it is best to engage with extreme caution, to collect evidence to build a case of the existence of a conspiracy. Keep your ear out for every possibility. These are elementary rational steps, and is the core concept of any warfighting strategy in all eras. Worsen your enemy's position while not worsening your own. Everything flows from that. Besides, it is funny how the Tor project isn't DDOSed. Costs only $100,000 per month to take it out. It's not complex math. The fact that it exists, implies that there are hidden interests. An enemy that does that act in favor of his obvious interests means he has hidden interests. To defeat your opponent, act in favor of your own interests and deny your enemy's ability to achieve his to pressure a quicker resolution. Yeah, I read things and I actually understood them. As opposed to the million walking Chinese rooms. Also, by the way, a lot of the things the NSA does isn't actually classified. Robert Graham talks about them all the time. (which makes you lot hilariously incompetent) http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/05/no-you-cant-remotely-turn-on-phones.html Apparently the baseband processor is totally insecure. Has any made any research into this? To whose interests is this inaction benefiting? Who is working for whom? Do not fight to fight. Fight to win. Otherwise you are just wasting your time.

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[WAR] Breitbart on the rise - overtakes PornHub, 29th most trafficked site in the USA
by Zenaan Harkness 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

Something tells me that this conservative 'whitelash' train or whatever folks want to call it, is not going away. With epic sparring matches between the lame stream media and Herr Trump, John "Deep State" McCain and the rest of the pizza poederasters becoming fuel for the dominoes ovens, let's hope that child sniffing senators have had their day and a saner world approaches. At least Kellogs is certain their problems have absolutely nothing to do with a Breitlash. Or at least their PR dept is certain. All right, all right, at least their 7th floor 5th column State Department cleaner is certain... or his dog. 🎉🎉 Breitbart News 29th Most Trafficked Site in USA… …Overtakes ESPN, PornHub 🎉🎉 http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/02/19/breitbart-news-traffic-s…

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Jewish fear
by Zenaan Harkness 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

The other side of the coin - as in, Jews fear XYZ: - Jews fear ethno-states. Jews fear "ethnically homoegeneous" states because the Jew is naturally the outsider in such a state - at ~2% of the population of the USA, Australia, etc, if such states returned to e.g. the White Australia policy, then Jews may consider themselves to be outcasts, certainly the minority, and would certainly lose power over the majority. Ironically, the Jew has a 5000 year itch, a deep desire in fact, for his own, Jewish, ethnostate. And he will build walls and a highly "fascist" state, using the tools of ethnic cleansing and by all other means available to him, from micro nukes to Polish patsies (Zbig, I'm lookin' at you!) - Jews fear non-Jews. Jews, being a minority in every land except "Israel", naturally fear the power of the majorities in other states to unite in their voice to the world, in their natural and righteous desires and intentions for their own "states" or ("natural"/historically imposed) geographical groupings. Jews were denied a homeland, denied their own ethnostate by Arcangel Gabriel (him)self. Dear Jews, blame Gabriel and sort out his beef with you, stop taking it out on the rest of us. Dear Gabriel, sort out your beef with the Jews that the rest of us might be not predated upon economically and militarily, by endless (((compromise))) of pizza, money, and MKUltra murders of those who would stand. - Jews fear freedom of speech. With freedom of speech comes the freedom of the majority to unite in their group intentions, and for the vocal "bold ones" to voice those politically incorrect conservative opinions which have been suppressed for so long. Free speech also implies the freedom to associate that we might listen to one another speak, and thereafter the freedom to unite in common cause, common action, behind those causes which are in the interests of the majority, and may be opposed to the minority - for example it is our right to collectively unite and offer financial incentives to minorities to emmigrate. Angel Gabriel: I've got a bone to pick with you! By colluding with Moses to deny the Hebrews their own ethnostate, no matter what righteous beefs you had to pick with them, you created for ~5000 years the most predatorial folk in this world - by necessity from their (naturally) point of view. It's time to change the regime on this planet. I'm fed up! For 5000 bloody years the other tribes have been predated upon with mathematically certain outcomes (debt-based fiat expansion vs credit-based fiat expansion), and the result is 109 expulsions from 89 countries and counting. The planet and nature herself suffers the Fukushimas and the Syrias. Enough is a blood bath enough already! It's time for a final, humane, solution - 110 and NEVER again! Angel Gabriel: Why is it ok to push the entire world into never ending blood lust? We humans have the right to speak, and we do. We have a right to object, and we do. We have the right to self determination, to have a direct say in EVERY law we are called upon to obey, as well as the right to ignore and/ or not comply with those laws which are repugnant to our individual conscience! We have a right to speak, a right to object, and a right to live and thrive peacefully along with those others we choose to live with. Angel Gabriel, it is time for a change on this world, a change towards righteousness. Zenaan

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[WAR] USA senator John McCain blasts Russia to Ukraine president
by Zenaan Harkness 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

Speaking of Michael Flynn's resignation for supposedly talking with a Russian diplomat and possibly mentioning sanctions, perhaps John McCain should take a dose of resignation medicine? Or is what's good for the Vovan, not also good for the Lexus? McCain phoned by Russian pranksters pretending to be Ukrainian PM http://theduran.com/mccain-phoned-russian-pranksters-pretending-ukrainian-p… " During the course of the phone call, McCain expressed open contempt for Donald Trump and admitted that because of Trump questions of removing Russian sanctions, Ukrainian membership of NATO and the EU and aid for Kiev’s war of aggression have transformed from Washington gospel into a big question mark. McCain’s repeated acknowledgment of ‘Putin’s aggression’ went far beyond agreeing with what the pranksters said. He was all too happy to encourage the fake Prime Minister in stating that Putin and Russia threaten the Baltics and Syria. Needless to say, Russia’s participation in Syria’s war on terrorism was done at the legal request of the Syrian government, while Russia’s involvement in the three Baltic republics is zero. " A subtle change to U.S. bullshittery: http://russia-insider.com/en/lavrov-tells-it-right-pences-smug-face-russia-… And for those who made it this far, an ... uplifting treat: http://russia-insider.com/en/russians-just-gave-world-gift-hoverbikes-you-c… Direct link to vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVFa_3lmiM Enjoy :)

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Re: [Cryptography] HSMs or Intel SGX? Which is harder to hack?
by grarpamp 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Bill Cox <waywardgeek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you wanted to store secrets so securely that you could never get them > out, how would you do it? The secrets need to be usable for things like > signing, but they should be unrecoverable. In particular, is it better to > buy an HSM, or use Intel's SGX mode on some of its newer processors? Don't use a general purpose device. Though certainly dedicated HSM's have their list of hacks too. Note that some regard SGX https://github.com/kudelskisecurity/sgxfun as having already been broken https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/users/weichbr/papers/esorics2016.pdf and btw ASLR just got beat up again https://www.vusec.net/projects/anc/ https://github.com/vusec/revanc https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/new-aslr-busting-javascript-is-abo… -make-drive-by-exploits-much-nastier/ Esorics 2016 freebies http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-45744-4 http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-45741-3

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NY Post: It only took five seconds for assassins to kill Kim Jong Nam
by jim bell 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

Jim Bell's guess: hydrogen cyanide. (Hydrocyanic acid) It only took five seconds for assassins to kill Kim Jong Nam http://nyp.st/2kOmYtb For more on the New York Post and to download our apps, visit NYPost.com Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Broken Mailers [was: Google's Artificial Intelligence]
by grarpamp 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> wrote: > I have received Anti-Tech Revolution (2016) as a scan. I've just checked, and it's also on LibGen. libgen +1 A lot of user's mailers were mangling the subject line of the former thread above that Razer copied from whatever idiot edited the original article. Eugen's mailer was the first to permanently corrupt the non-ascii quote marks into literal '?' question marks. To prevent that, people should check and set utf-8 / 2047 in your settings. Or update software as needed to support standards like rfc2047 that have been in effect for more than 20 years. MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) Part Three: Message Header Extensions for Non-ASCII Text https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2047 MIME Parameter Value and Encoded Word Extensions: Character Sets, Languages, and Continuations https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2231 Internet Message Format https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322 https://www.google.com/search?q=subject+line+utf-8+rfc2047+bugs

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Fwd: [tor-relays] Proselytizing Tor at the General Strike
by grarpamp 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2017-February/011959.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kenneth Freeman <kencf0618(a)riseup.net> Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Proselytizing Tor at the General Strike To: tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org On 02/15/2017 06:00 PM, Kenneth Freeman wrote: > On February 17, the day before Presidents Day, a general strike shall be > held against any and all things Trump. If Boise is having an activists > workshop, then there are plenty of tranches of fertile ground nationwide > to plant Tor browsers, relays, and exit nodes. (I meant the day before Presidents Day weekend, of course.) Nearly 200 people turned out for An Evening of Resistance Building, several of whom I introduced to Tor. I was even asked about the t-shirt. Speaking as a privacy advocate, it was an evening well spent. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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Google’s Artificial Intelligence Getting ‘Greedy,’ ‘Aggressive’
by Razer 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

Garbage In Garbage Out... "Will artificial intelligence get more aggressive and selfish the more intelligent it becomes? A new report out of Google’s DeepMind AI division suggests this is possible based on the outcome of millions of video game sessions it monitored. The results of the two games indicate that as artificial intelligence becomes more complex, it is more likely to take extreme measures to ensure victory, including sabotage and greed. The first game, Gathering, is a simple one that involves gathering digital fruit. Two DeepMind AI agents were pitted against each other after being trained in the ways of deep reinforcement learning. After 40 million turns, the researchers began to notice something curious. Everything was ok as long as there were enough apples, but when scarcity set in, the agents used their laser beams to knock each other out and seize all the apples. Watch the video battle below, showcasing two AI bots fighting over green apples: Video The aggression, they determined, was the result of higher levels of complexity in the AI agents themselves. When they tested the game on less intelligent AI agents, they found that the laser beams were left unused and equal amounts of apples were gathered. The simpler AIs seemed to naturally gravitate toward peaceful coexistence. Researchers believe the more advanced AI agents learn from their environment and figure out how to use available resources to manipulate their situation — and they do it aggressively if they need to. “This model … shows that some aspects of human-like behaviour emerge as a product of the environment and learning,” a DeepMind team member, Joel Z Leibo, told Wired. “Less aggressive policies emerge from learning in relatively abundant environments with less possibility for costly action. The greed motivation reflects the temptation to take out a rival and collect all the apples oneself.” The second game, Wolfpack, tested the AI agents’ ability to work together to catch prey. The agents played the game as wolves who were being tested to see if they would join forces as strategic predators; if they jointly protected the prey from scavengers they would enjoy a greater reward. Researchers once again concluded that the agents were learning from their environment and figuring out how they could collaboratively win. For example, one agent would corner the prey and then wait for the other to join. Researchers believe both games show an ability in artificial intelligence entities to learn quickly from their environments in achieving objectives. The first game, however, presented an added bit of abstract speculation. If more complex iterations of artificial intelligence necessarily develop aggressive, greedy ‘impulses,’ does this present a problem for a species already mired in its own avarice? While the abstract presented by DeepMind does not venture to speculate on the future of advanced artificial minds, there is at least anecdotal evidence here to suggest AI will not necessarily be a totally logical egalitarian network. With complex environments and willful agents, perhaps aggression and self-preservation arise naturally…even in machines." Link, with more links: http://theantimedia.org/artificial-intelligence-human-like/

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[graffiti] Lie Lie Land
by Cecilia Tanaka 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

It would be a good graffiti to Trump's Wall. :) http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/street-artist-unveils-lie-lie-land-sk… Other cute art suggestions: https://www.buzzfeed.com/kassycho/here-are-21-cartoons-people-are-sharing-i… https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-are-sharing-dr-seuss-cartoons-in-… https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/i-got-this ------- "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison

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