February 2017 - cypherpunks@lists.ogf.org

Got a GIG!
by Razer 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

My suggestion on Twitter that "Immigrants" to Sweden are really War Refugees has stirred up a flock of NeoNazi trolls who don't think destroying the Middle East is war. Little did they know that suggestion was a 'headlight' and it's Frog Gigging Season!

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Re: [WAR] A brief bit of Hillary history.
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

My question was, is and shall continue to be, who of the various candidates in the upcoming USA elections, who might get elected to run the USA war machine, would be the least likely candidate to push Russia and or China and or the rest of the world into World War 3, when the economic crunch time for North America finally hits the fan. We know a massive global financial crash is coming, and in previous points of financial collapse, history shows us an almost certainty of a major war following. This bodes EXTREMELY PRECARIOUSLY for all of us on this little blue planet, and suggests that those who vote in the upcoming North American elections ought think carefully about the question above. Those who are onlookers might consider being in contact with anyone they know who will be involved/ voting in the upcoming USA elections, and discover their thoughts on this fundamental question - who is most and who is least likely to start World War 3. Also, look into the preference voting system (like we also have in Australia) if you will be voting, and figure out how your candidate's votes might be applied to other candidates, should your chosen candidate not receive enough votes to be elected. That, or choose your own preferences! Be informed, and let's do our bit towards avoiding World War 3 - if this issue of the potential for the next world war is not handled by us humans, we may just find that sometime in the next 4 years, that we are all faced with a reality where NO OTHER QUESTION EVEN MATTERS, and it's too late to argue or say sorry or I told you so or anything else so pathetic in the face of the lack of the action required to have stopped the problem in the first place. Good luck fellow humans, Zenaan ----- Forwarded message ----- Subject: FW: nothing has changed! they are all the same. http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2014-03-08/story/fact-check-was-h… ----- End forwarded message -----

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[OT] [song] Prayer Of The Refugee - Rise Against
by Cecilia Tanaka 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

It's an old song, but seems still appropriate. ====== Prayer Of The Refugee - Rise Against https://youtu.be/9-SQGOYOjxs Warm yourself by the fire, son And the morning will come soon I'll tell you stories of a better time In a place that we once knew Before we packed our bags And left all this behind us in the dust We had a place that we could call home And a life no one could touch Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! We are the angry and the desperate The hungry, and the cold We're the ones who kept quiet And always did what we were told But we've been sweating while you slept so calm In the safety of your home We've been pulling out the nails that hold up Everything you've known Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! So open your eyes, child Let's be on our way Broken windows and ashes Are guiding the way Keep quiet no longer We'll sing through the day Of the lives that we've lost And the lives we've reclaimed Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! Don't hold me up now I can stand my own ground I don't need your help now You will let me down, down, down! Don't hold me up (I don't need your help, I'll stand my ground) Don't hold me up (I don't need your help) No! No! No! Don't hold me up! (I don't need your help, I'll stand my ground) Don't hold me up! (I don't need your help, I'll stand my ground) Don't let me down, down, down, down, down!

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Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'
by Anti Fag 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

> John Newman jnn at synfin.org > Tue Feb 21 11:25:51 PST 2017 > > How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up? For 2 million illegal registered claim, here are two links referencing the same "study": http:// washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics… http:// infowars.com/up-to-2-million-non-citizens-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-t… For 800,000 illegal votes claim, here is an article: http:// washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-… I see 3 and 5 mil claims but original quote was “if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” then said “Forget that. Forget all that. Just take a look at the registration and we’re going to do it.”. > His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades? It was, following Bush Sr. and Obama, lol. Top three seems legit. Besides, he was fed that false statement right before he spoke, it seems. Here is a video: https:// youtube.com/watch?v=v0Qeq3qVUzM > His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years? The national rate is not comparable to local rates, such as Chicago, which are up. Here are some links with numbers: https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate https:// ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/murd… http:// time.com/4607059/murder-rate-increase-us-cities-2016/ http:// infowars.com/fbi-us-homicide-rate-at-51-year-low/ Here is some execution shit covering exactly 47 years: http:// deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state http:// deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consi… Rates have lowered, it seems, lol. It seems that this is some 8D chess, where the President claims a pro gun-censorship "fact" to shed light on the reality that as guns and "mass shootings" increase in number and occurrence, death rates are actually eaual-to or lower-than the late 60's, "when kids were safe to just play the streets". Keep in mind: The killing of a felon by a peace officer in the line of duty."" The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private citizen."" Because these killings are determined through law enforcement investigation to be justifiable, they are tabulated separately from murder and nonnegligent manslaughter."" And to your point, quotes are "45 years"; accusation that you are a lying shill would be false, while reality that you mispoke or misremebered (or were fed disinformation) becomes more likely. Pay that respect to your president. > immigration executive order Still unraveling, fam. > He NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right? He did not; he was imitating a standard retard. Which Kovaleski is, a mental retard. Here is a video from your pals CiEnEn: https:// youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA > It goes on and on and on It does. Keep up with shilling. Maybe your family will be spared by the marxists for helping them regain power. I wish you the best, comrade Newman. We expect more from a confirmed hiphop-head.

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[WAR] the refreshing (if embarrassing) decline of the Western "empire" regime
by Zenaan Harkness 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

"Not every cat is a lion": Shoigu shoots down UK's "bear paws" comment http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/02/not-every-cat-is-lion-shoigu-shoots.html

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Sweden says YES !
by Anti Fag 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

> juan juan.g71 at gmail.com > Tue Feb 21 15:35:47 PST 2017 > > Sure, 'exponential' growth. You are correct. I should have written 'near-linear growth'. I see you agree with rest. > That shows exactly what kind of dishonest and retarded asshole you are. Lol. Wut. https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden: Sweden began recording national crime statistics in 1950, and the method for recording crime has basically remained unchanged until the mid-1960s, when the Swedish police introduced new procedures for crime statistics, which have been presented as a partial explanation for the historical increase in crime reports." From fucking xl doc: https:// unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS_Sexual_violence.…: Definition: “Rape” means sexual intercourse without valid consent."" If you graph the numbers for 'Rates per 100,000 Population' for Sweden, you get "muh growth". But if you wanna look at pre-made graphs: https:// unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-statistics/International_Statis…

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Trump Plan: Deport to Mexico Immigrants Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of Nationality
by Anti Fag 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com > Tue Feb 21 14:32:00 PST 2017 > > I don't understand this guy, uff... :( Seems like you don't understand laws or logic, either. Seems fitting for a "law"yer. The key to understanding is in the title of your post: Deport [faggots] Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of [who the fuck they are]. Sounds about right to me. Unless you want to end up like Elin Krantz (2011): https:// google. fr/search?q=Elin+Krantz&tbm=isch&sa=G&gbv=1&sei=R8OsWKbgOoG5Uv-PibAK

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NSA Contractors Join Privacy Shield
by Rachael Tackett 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

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Sweden says YES !
by Anti Fag 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

> juan juan.g71 at gmail.com > Tue Feb 21 11:00:54 PST 2017 > > made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005 Only thing about 2004/5 "expansion" of the "rape" "law" that I could find (wiki source was shit) was "rape with more offenders": 2005: 90 Våldtäkt utvidgas/våldtäktpå minderåriga. Dates you are looking for are 1975 & 1992. 1975: Immigrant and Minority Policy: Since the Parliament decided in 1975 that Sweden should be multicultural and not Swedish, crime has exploded. Violent crime has increased by more than 300%, and rapes have increased by an unbelievable 1,472%."" 1992: 147 Våldtäkt utvidgas: For example, in 1992 a legislative change came into force which shifted the dividing line between sexual assault and rape. This legislative change resulted in about a 25% increase in the level of registered rape offences."" > exactly the point in time when 'statistics' started to 'go through the roof' It is exponential in growth since 70's, read pdfs, don't be like John. From some shit linked before: Sweden did not become a country of immigration again until World War II. The modern era of immigration can be divided into four distinct stages, with each stage representing different types of immigrants and immigration: 1) Refugees from neighboring countries (1938 to 1948) 2) Labor immigration from Finland and southern Europe (1949 to 1971) 3) Family reunification and refugees from developing countries (1972 to 1989) 4) Asylum seekers from southeastern and Eastern Europe (1990 to present) As a result of these differing flows, the once-dominant Scandinavians, who composed well over half of Sweden's foreign-born population in 1960, made up only one-fourth of the foreign born in 2004."" > ranked as the number one country in gender equality But to your point, Juan, Here is a table of all the "victim" protection "laws" passed in Sweden since the 70's: http:// providus.lv/upload_file/Projekti/Kriminalitesibas/Victim%20support/6.%20SE.pdf A local criticizing the "law": https:// erlinghellenas.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/the-swedish-rape-law/ You can read the current "law" here: Chapter 6 of The Swedish Penal Code (1962:700): http:// government.se/49cd61/contentassets/602a1b5a8d65426496402d99e19325d5/chapter-6-of-the-swedish-penal-code_unoffical-translation_20140922.pdf

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SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?
by Cecilia Tanaka 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories? http://theconversation.com/ss-gb-why-the-renewed-obsession-with-alternative… "The Nazis are, once again, a subject of considerable cultural obsession. >From The Man in the High Castle to the BBC's new adaptation of SS-GB, counterfactual Nazi nightmares are very much in vogue. This has happened once before, points out Sam Edwards – such alternative histories also proliferated in the 1960s. So what's behind their return?"

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