#FLAME ON Michael Brennan writes:

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Hey, man, we're the cypherpunks. We're too hip to worry about a trivial little mail bomb. But if we did get upset...well, who do you think has the bigger arsenal of dirty tricks, him or us?

What arrogant little pricks you are, Mr. Ringuette and Mr. May! So is this what cypherpunks is really all about: "dirty tricks", "mail bombs", endless harassment of people on the net who simply wish to be left alone?.........

I've seen many of you raise issues about responsibility on the net. Is proving that you have a "bigger arsenal of dirty tricks" you're idea of responsibility? And do you really think that cypherpunks could survive such a war? You yourselves have admitted that you have many enemies in your quest for net privacy and anonymity. Do you foolishly believe that they won't seize upon this irresponsible behavior on your part and use it to prove their point? You will only succeed in bringing about precisely what you claim to oppose: oppressive controls on the internet to stop petty vandals like yourself.

I symphatize for poor Mr. Habrecht being unable to get off this list. Does it mean, that he, in his frustration bombing my mailbox, is "justified"? Hey, it's not me, who signed himon to this list, it's not me, who can throw him out! So why did he choose to shoot from the hip at innocent bystanders? By the same logic, if one feels he was treated unjustly anywhere - just make a bomb and blow up the highest building in your area with the largest amount of people in it. What a real responsible bastard can do such things... And who's talking about responsibility?! An "e-mail terrorist"? Ha! Can cypherpunks survive the "war"? With who? Lighten up! Spitting saliva and terms like "petty vandals"? Well, well... Who was that idiot, who vandalized my mailbox with his stupid 3K lines of excrements? That's what true "vandalism" is, in my eyes... Oh, and if you aren't satisfied with how car service in your city works - get a gun and hunt their passengers... What a man... And the last - who the hell needs that privacy? Is it something valuable for cypherpunks only, something you don't really need for yourself? Just joined this list out of kindness to help those poor kids?

I would hope that there are some among you that have some scrap of sanity left, and realize that there is nothing to be gained from bringing a needless war down upon yourselves. Wise up!

Yeah. Always nice to have a peace defender...

I sent one request to cypherpunks-request about three weeks ago, and a second about a week ago. Was Eric Hughes at the CFP conference then? And you may have noticed that a third person has now stepped forward and expressed frustration over being in the same predicament. Do you still want to pretend there is no problem? What will it take for you to realize there is: the third person, the fourth, fixth, sixth? I'll say it again: Wise up!

Well, list manager, are you there? Ain't this pure truth? And as Mark pointed out, can it be managed AUTOMATICALLY? Somebody out there, please?

I've been very patient over this, but I'm disgusted at your arrogant promises of "dirty tricks" and "mail bombs" against those who simply want to unsubscribe from the list!

Oh no! Seeing a terrorist attack, we should seek a reason for that poor person to act this way, to justify his doings, and to change our behaviour, because obviously, a person with grievance isn't responsible, or liable for his actions - we are! Thus we shouldn't threaten a "mail-bomber" with response in kind, oh no! Give me my wish, or ye all will suffer the consequenses!

What phenomenal assholes you are!!!

Sounds like you were looking at the mirror too much recently (:-). Uri. ------------ <Disclaimer>