Re: warez garbage cluttering the screen
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time. ---Marc
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
---Marc
GRRRRRRRRRRRR...... I dont have to pay and I rather found it useful. loki
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
---Marc
1) The fl0w of wArEz keeps the universe in perfect harmony. Without wArEz there would be no life as we know it. And just because you are a rich fat fuck who can afford to plunk down $795 for a copy of Pagemaker, you shouldn't take a moral stance against those who cannot afford such extortion yet need these software tools to keep up technologically with rich fat fucks like yourself. 2) wArEz have A LOT to do with Cypherpunks. Software, pirated or otherwise has value, and as such it must be considered as a form of digital money. One may trade encrypted wArEz anonymously over anonymous mailing lists, FSP/FTP sites, newsgroups like the proposed alt.waste, and BlackNet. wArEz _are_ digital gold coins, they have inherent value, unlike useless encrypted random number certificates advocated by others. 3) I don't give a flying fuck if you pay for your DL time. If you're stupid enough to be using AOL as your Internet port of entry, then you deserve to be ripped off by Compuserve's evil bastard cousin. Why don't you point and click yourself a new brain, and join a flat-rate system like Netcom or any of the hundred other public access internet sites. Support the small entrepreneurs instead of those lazy fat bastard nazi censors at AOL. Thug
1) The fl0w of wArEz keeps the universe in perfect harmony. Without wArEz there would be no life as we know it. And just because you are a rich fat fuck who can afford to plunk down $795 for a copy of Pagemaker, you shouldn't take a moral stance against those who cannot afford such extortion yet need these software tools to keep up technologically with rich fat fucks like yourself.
If you think prices are outrageous, let the software manufacturers know. Let your friends know, let everyone know. The reason they charge such prices is because they can. The reason they can is because people let them. Even better, support free software alternatives, and get your friends to do the same.
2) wArEz have A LOT to do with Cypherpunks. Software, pirated or otherwise has value, and as such it must be considered as a form of digital money. One may trade encrypted wArEz anonymously over anonymous mailing lists, FSP/FTP sites, newsgroups like the proposed alt.waste, and BlackNet. wArEz _are_ digital gold coins, they have inherent value, unlike useless encrypted random number certificates advocated by others.
warez has little to do with cypherpunks other than the fact that warez dewds can use crypto technology to help protect themselves against overly strict and mostly industry driven laws against piracy. Warez is used more as an electronic ego booster than a currency.
3) I don't give a flying fuck if you pay for your DL time. If you're stupid enough to be using AOL as your Internet port of entry, then you deserve to be ripped off by Compuserve's evil bastard cousin. Why don't you point and click yourself a new brain, and join a flat-rate system like Netcom or any of the hundred other public access internet sites. Support the small entrepreneurs instead of those lazy fat bastard nazi censors at AOL.
support the cause you believe in. By the same token dont support evil software companies *even by stealing their software!* Use alternatives. Stealing their software doesnt hurt them (contrary to what you would have them believe). Supporting free software and any competitors they have who have plolicies you approve does hurt them.
Thug
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
---Marc
GRRRRRRRRRRRR...... I dont have to pay and I rather found it useful.
loki
Then maybe a list for warez topics should be formed. I find alot of things on the cypherpunks list that is off-topic to be interesting. The list is however for the discussion of cryptography and privacy. The only thing that all people on this list have in common is their interest in crypto and privacy, and the list should stick to those points. Other topics that are interesting should be taken to private email or put on the appropriate lists (barring of course the occasional slip or wandering of the topic).
Murdering Thug () writes:
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
---Marc
1) The fl0w of wArEz keeps the universe in perfect harmony. Without wArEz there would be no life as we know it. And just because you are a rich fat fuck who can afford to plunk down $795 for a copy of Pagemaker, you shouldn't take a moral stance against those who cannot afford such extortion yet need these software tools to keep up technologically with rich fat fucks like yourself.
And later...
3) I don't give a flying fuck if you pay for your DL time. If you're stupid enough to be using AOL as your Internet port of entry, then you deserve to be ripped off by Compuserve's evil bastard cousin. Why don't you point and click yourself a new brain, and join a flat-rate system like ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Netcom or any of the hundred other public access internet sites. Support the small entrepreneurs instead of those lazy fat bastard nazi censors at AOL.
Obviously, if you had a brain, you'd be using FreeWare TeX instead of PageMaker, or you'd realize that there are competing packages out that with similar features but at a lower cost. Ya, software is extortion alright. Produce wealth in today's world but refuse to release it to looters without charging them a fee and you're in the protection reacket. Ha. The part about warez being digital coins is nonsense. If there was a free fL0w 0f wAr3z, your currency would be devalued to nothing. There'd be no point of "trading" warez cause anything you had, I could get myself. It is only because wArEz]<1dZ like yourself run pseudo-elitist cliques where having 0-dayz old wAReZ is king that you see any value at all in trading Mortal Kombat or beta copies of Windoze. (these "warez" sites on the net are hilarious. 99% of them are run out of the /tmp directory (under ftp or fsp) and others under student accounts. Unknowingly, many of them show up under archie! So much for secrets. Save yourself, and the net, the trouble of trading warez via anonymous remailers and call up your local pirate bbs instead)
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
---Marc
1) The fl0w of wArEz keeps the universe in perfect harmony. Without wArEz
Ommmmm....."If you can explain it, it isn't the Tao..."
there would be no life as we know it. And just because you are a rich fat fuck who can afford to plunk down $795 for a copy of Pagemaker, you shouldn't take a moral stance against those who cannot afford such extortion yet need these software tools to keep up technologically with rich fat fucks like yourself.
If he's complaining about d/l time, I guess he can't be too rich. Or maybe that's how he got that way?
2) wArEz have A LOT to do with Cypherpunks. Software, pirated or otherwise has value, and as such it must be considered as a form of digital money. One may trade encrypted wArEz anonymously over anonymous mailing lists, FSP/FTP sites, newsgroups like the proposed alt.waste, and BlackNet. wArEz _are_ digital gold coins, they have inherent value, unlike useless encrypted random number certificates advocated by others.
Unfortunately, that sort of value is the sort that can get people thrown in the clink unless one is very careful...
3) I don't give a flying fuck if you pay for your DL time. If you're stupid enough to be using AOL as your Internet port of entry, then you deserve to be ripped off by Compuserve's evil bastard cousin. Why don't you point and click yourself a new brain, and join a flat-rate system like Netcom or any of the hundred other public access internet sites. Support the small entrepreneurs instead of those lazy fat bastard nazi censors at AOL.
Too much coffee, or not enough Thorazine? ;) All in all, a very entertaining post - I think I woke up my roommate with my chuckles! -- Ed Carp erc@apple.com 510/659-9560 If you want magic, let go of your armor. Magic is so much stronger than steel! -- Richard Bach, "The Bridge Across Forever"
1) I don't favor piracy. I especially don't favor piracy by people who can't capitalize or spell, and who think that saying "rich fat fucks" is a suave conversational gambit. 2) I agree that piracy is not the proper subject of this list. 3) If Mr. Thug wants to discuss piracy, there are thousands of places for him to do so. Perry Murdering Thug says:
What have these endless bandwidth wasting lists of
supposed warez sites to do with Cypherpunks? Please take your personnal vendettas elsewhere. I pay for DL time.
1) The fl0w of wArEz keeps the universe in perfect harmony. Without wArEz there would be no life as we know it. And just because you are a rich fat fuck who can afford to plunk down $795 for a copy of Pagemaker, you shouldn't take a moral stance against those who cannot afford such extortion yet need these software tools to keep up technologically with rich fat fucks like yourself.
2) wArEz have A LOT to do with Cypherpunks. Software, pirated or otherwise has value, and as such it must be considered as a form of digital money. One may trade encrypted wArEz anonymously over anonymous mailing lists, FSP/FTP sites, newsgroups like the proposed alt.waste, and BlackNet. wArEz _are_ digital gold coins, they have inherent value, unlike useless encrypted random number certificates advocated by others.
3) I don't give a flying fuck if you pay for your DL time. If you're stupid enough to be using AOL as your Internet port of entry, then you deserve to be ripped off by Compuserve's evil bastard cousin. Why don't you point and click yourself a new brain, and join a flat-rate system like Netcom or any of the hundred other public access internet sites. Support the small entrepreneurs instead of those lazy fat bastard nazi censors at AOL.
Thug
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khijol!erc＠apple.com -
loki＠convex1.TCS.Tulane.EDU -
mbriceno＠aol.com -
Perry E. Metzger -
rjc＠gnu.ai.mit.edu -
thug＠phantom.com -
Timothy Newsham