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From gnu@toad.com Sun Feb 21 12:27:13 1993 Message-Id: <9302212028.AA25645@toad.com> To: farber@cis.upenn.edu, gnu@toad.com, barlow@eff.org Cc: kelly@netcom.com Subject: Political and social action, cypherpunk assisted Date: Sun, 21 Feb 93 12:28:10 -0800 From: gnu@toad.com

Kelly, I think you should also add some more mainstream groups like talk.environment, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.society.civil-liberty, alt.society.civil-disob, comp.society.privacy, alt.privacy, comp.org.eff.talk. This is not just a tool for conspirators, anarchists, and revolutionaries, though the FBI and NSA would love to pigeonhole us that way. It's for anyone who wants to exercise their Constitutionally-protected rights to privacy or anonymity.

John

I agree completely John, in fact I have had a talk with Phil Z. and have his best wishes in this area, one thing that has come up recently is putting together COMPLETE packages of Binaries of PGP for various platforms, along with hopper email preparation scripts, programs to email or otherwise get news to a newsgroup, or emailing list. minimal configurations for the amove. EASY installation scripts and/or instructions to install and verify correct installation of same, perhaps a Video could be prepared that could be distributed throught the community cable channel network or borrowable thought a public for the community station could be arrange, the main thing I see is spreading this tech far and wide first to the groups that have the most need of it and then to the mainstream. A foreign site at present is best for the complete packages because of US ITAR regulations, although uncoercible platforms such as toad.com and hosts in the edu domain could also be perhaps a contribution to the situation. I see the CLEAR and present DANGER if we dont start treading this new legal ground quickly and establish legal precedent by action and litigaion if need be. Our rights will be abridged and condensed so fast you wont even be able to reply "thank you Mr. Webster" before people start assuming a Maxmillian code of Justice instead of the one granted us by the US Constitution. I see Privacy and anonymity as Inalienable rights reserved to the people under the 9th amendment. I also view the ITAR regulations classifying crypto as a weapon/munition as putting crypto under the purview of the second amendment under the right to keep and bear arms. I also hold that expression of free thoughts feelings and the tangilbe manifestion of same known as software to be forms of protected speech under the first amendment. As I am a member of society who always will test the letter of the law n these areas to the limit, I now realize that the socalled crypto-war with the federal government has to have a broad base of public support before we are adjudged criminals by the govt controlled press in this country and have our rights trampled under like the way all groups have had theirs trampled under by the govt. I for one dont wish to wake up in some morning with some federal agents gun stuck up my nostril such as happened in the sundevil raids. RICO seizures are currently illegally used by the federal lackeys to totally circumvent all the protections of the bill of rights and to acquire shamelessly computer hardware for local, state and federal law enforcement agencies. Can you say THEFT!!.. Can you say Violation of the 4th amendment of the US Constitution!! Oh DAMN!! I went and got passionately political again... OK I will shutup... for now... besides I have to answer all of this fascinating e-mail I seem to be getting... And work on this document... cheers kelly