Another BBS Seizure in Hartford
Date: 08-03-93 (22:35) Number: 1089 From: KENNETH PAVLAK Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: Sysop held on $500,000 Bail Conf: (24) F-Law&Dis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hartford Courant on August 5, 1993 (page b-4) stated that a 21 year old computer BBS operator was arrested for maintaining a computer bulletin board that had a bomb making recipe. Michael Elansky was charged by the West Hartford police with inciting injury to persons or property - a felony charge - and risk of injury to a minor. He was held in lieu of $500,000 bond (in CT the bond for a person accused of murder is normally $100,000) Det. Capt. James Gustafson said the case was "sealed" and no information could be released. Michal Elansky's father said information from the Anarchists Cook Book (Available from Paladin Press, P.O. Box 1307, Boulder, CO 80306, phone 303-443-7250) was on the bbs placed there by person or persons unknown; it was impossible for his son to keep track of due to the number of calls to his bbs. And so, Big Brother now says that passing along information will get a person 21 years old locked up on a half a million dollars bail, while accused murderers get out on 100,000 dollars. The newspaper did not say if the computer or the files from it were taken. Can the people who were on that bbs look forward to a "Visit" from the servants of Big Brother? Will they be arrested if they downloaded VERBOTEN information? Will there be MASS ARRESTS of people who have knowledge that is no longer permitted? Time will tell === GEcho 1.00 * SPEED 1.30 >01< * Remember, god works in meaningless ways.
Does this mean I can be arrested for mentioning the fact that dry ice and water put into an empty 2-liter bottle of Coke makes a nice explosion? -- Ray Cromwell | Engineering is the implementation of science; -- -- EE/Math Student | politics is the implementation of faith. -- -- rjc@gnu.ai.mit.edu | - Zetetic Commentaries --
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Does this mean I can be arrested for mentioning the fact that dry ice and water put into an empty 2-liter bottle of Coke makes a nice explosion?
Or how about saying, "You can kill someone by running them over with a car." This is pathetic. ========================+==========================================+ J. Michael Diehl ;^) | Have you hugged a Hetero........Lately? | mdiehl@triton.unm.edu | "I'm just looking for the opportunity to | mike.diehl@fido.org help| be Politically Incorrect!" +=========+ al945@cwns9.ins.cwru.edu| Is Big Brother in your phone? | PGP KEY | (505) 299-2282 (voice) | If you don't know, ask me. |Available| ========================+================================+=========+ PGP Key = 7C06F1 = A6 27 E1 1D 5F B2 F2 F1 12 E7 53 2D 85 A2 10 5D This message is protected by 18 USC 2511 and 18 USC 2703. Monitoring by anyone other than the recipient is absolutely forbidden by US Law
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The Hartford Courant on August 5, 1993 (page b-4) stated that a 21 year old computer BBS operator was arrested for maintaining a computer bulletin board that had a bomb making recipe.
Michael Elansky was charged by the West Hartford police with inciting injury to persons or property - a felony charge - and risk of injury to a minor.
He was held in lieu of $500,000 bond (in CT the bond for a person accused of murder is normally $100,000)
Det. Capt. James Gustafson said the case was "sealed" and no information could be released.
Michal Elansky's father said information from the Anarchists Cook Book (Available from Paladin Press, P.O. Box 1307, Boulder, CO 80306,
I find this hard to believe...not saying it isn't true, but it's hard for me to believe that the cause was just material from the long-available, long-discredited "Anarchists Cookbook"...I bought my copy in 1972-3 and it's still widely available (Loompanics, Paladin, the "Anubus Warpus" store in Santa Cruz, etc.). I hope the EFF gets involved in this one, as there shouldn't be a double standard, with printed material (books, magazines) held to a different legal standard than bulletin boards and networks are. (The copyright violation issues are another--and much lesser--matter.) If something is legal in written form--and nearly everything should be, of course--then the electronic form should be treated identically. -Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.
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