Re: HIDE: embedded msgs in grphics & snd
Re. cyphertext and music: I've been professionally involved in the recording/production scene and could arrange something. There are plenty of damn good bands in the Bay Area who might volunteer for this kind of thing; I can think of a couple of candidates right away. Also a great local studio, Polymorph Productions, which would be amenable to this. All we need to get going is for someone to cover the actual cost of studio time, which is only $30/hour. Now the only hitch right now is my own schedule being really really busy, but I could get a free weekend, or hook up some local cypherpunx with the bands and the studio, and see where it goes. Basically I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the original production investment with interest. So, anyone interested...? -gg@well.sf.ca.us.
George A. Gleason says:
Re. cyphertext and music: I've been professionally involved in the recording/production scene and could arrange something. There are plenty of damn good bands in the Bay Area who might volunteer for this kind of thing; I can think of a couple of candidates right away.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why bother with recording professional and semi-professional music, when you can just as easily record your OWN voice and send a digitized voice message (as an e-mail enhancement)? In order to prevent smart censorship (i.e. altering LSBs under you) one must design sort of crypto-CRC, or like... -- Regards, Uri uri@watson.ibm.com scifi!angmar!uri N2RIU ----------- <Disclamer>
In message <199303201024.AA09757@well.sf.ca.us>, George A. Gleason writes:
I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the original production investment with interest. So, anyone interested...?
For exactly this reason, I don't think that this is a very good idea. The discussion here started as a search for a way to make encrypted data not look like encrypted data. (Once it becomes illegal). If encoding in LSBs becomes a famous technique, then once data encryption becomes illegal searching the LSBs will become standard procedure for that data cops. -- | Sameer Parekh-zane@genesis.MCS.COM-PFA related mail to pfa@genesis.MCS.COM | | Apprentice Philosopher, Writer, Physicist, Healer, Programmer, Lover, more | | "Be God" - Me __ "Specialization is for Insects" - Robert A. Heinlein ____/ \_____________/ \____________________________________________________/
In message <199303201024.AA09757@well.sf.ca.us>, George A. Gleason writes:
I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the original production investment with interest. So, anyone interested...?
For exactly this reason, I don't think that this is a very good idea. The discussion here started as a search for a way to make encrypted data not look like encrypted data. (Once it becomes illegal). If encoding in LSBs becomes a famous technique, then once data encryption becomes illegal searching the LSBs will become standard procedure for that data cops.
At which time we simply abandon this media. But think of it. Don't you think a record company would be interested in a new record-selling gimmic? And they have enough money.....er...I mean clout, ya that's it, to protect their new- found gimmic. Just my (last) $.02, Thanx for listening. ;^) +----------------------+----------------------------------------------------+ | J. Michael Diehl ;-) | I thought I was wrong once. But, I was mistaken. | | +----------------------------------------------------+ | mdiehl@triton.unm.edu| "I'm just looking for the opportunity to be | | Thunder@forum | Politically Incorrect! | | (505) 299-2282 | <me> | +----------------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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