Would it be incorrect to say that people flailing randomly on the list trying to invent the next great encryption scheme is both a waste of bandwidth, and inappropriate to the list? I guess what I'm trying to say is that I see cypherpunks as a gathering of people trying to encourage privacy via technology. As such, technical discussions of how to implement a remailer would be appropriate, but it seems that garbage about how to make MacBeth decrypt into your plaintext should be reserved for sci.crypt.flame. There's also a lot of other inappropriate traffic, like the recent "espionage" thread. Save it for talk.bizarre. Should I crawl back into my hole, or am I not the only one who thinks that a lot of the random spewage on the list is just that? (flame off) I think this is a valuable list. I like being on it, most of the time. But we've already seen many people remove themselves because they were drowning in email. Can we please try to keep the messages appropriate, and the signal-to-noise ratio high? Marc