CPs, I have just now finished my "Big Brother Inside" logo. Here is a recap: The logo was scanned in as 600dpi line-art on a Microtech scanner (logo from an ad in Time mag.). I then used Adobe Photoshop to change the size to 8.667" wide and 8" tall, at 300 dpi. At this size, I messed with the letters, and smoothed out all the aliasing bumbs that the scanner made. Short story: The logo is REALLY cool. I have a 8.667" by 8" logo and a 2" by 1.8" version (for stickers) - I envision the larger one being for T-shirts... I am investigating having Tshirts made with the logo on the front and a blurb about not using the Clipper (or is it Skipjack?) chips. Does anyone have any good ideas for what to put on the back? so far I have this: (BIG LETTERS HERE) Fight the Clipper. (Smaller letters) Arise, you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fences! (with Tim's permission, assuming he grants it) Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Consult the EFFto find out what you can do: Electronic Frontier Foundation 1001 G Street, NW Suite 950 East Washington, DC 20001 VOX +1 202 347 5400 FAX +1 202 393 5509 Internet: eff@eff.org Anyway, I will send the files in Gif and PICT format to soda in the morning (I have been having REAL problems with sending data over the phone lately) BTW, has anyone had luck getting that guy's phone number - the one who said he could make vinyl stickers? I'll keep posting about the T-shirts... -nate sammons nate@vis.colostate.edu