Not having heard of CERT before, and living ten minutes away from their offices at SEI, i checked out their anonymous ftp site (cert.org) and found the CERT faq in the pub directory. From the info THEY provide, it seems like a worthwhile organization. BUT, in their info, they deal with security issues, not copyright infringement. I realise that hidden directories in an incoming dir is a security issue, but it seems to be a thinly veiled attack on the distribution of software of illegal or questionable origins. They do publish security advisories; i would be interested in seeing a list of sites served with notices similar to those julf and soda received. Does anyone have more info on CERT? BTW- SEI at CMU is a scary place. The photo lab i worked for as a messenger had clients there, so i was in the building a couple times a day for more than i year. Because of their DOD affiliation, there are regular protests outside the building. On a normal delivery during one of these protests i was surrounded by guards, searched, and asked some WAY paranoid questions even though the regular guards knew who i was. If you ever happen to be walking the halls of SEI and see the nice big prints of guided missiles and other scary stuff, I probably delivered them. --Robert Luscombe ral@telerama.pgh.pa.us | 2201 Sarah Street Apt. 3 robert@well.sf.ca.us | Pittsburgh, PA 15203 rluscomb@nyx.cs.du.edu | 412/488-0941 (Finger for PGP Public Key)