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RE: NRA Prints HALF Of The Story (Barniskis)?
by Neal Lang 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Date sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:51:26 -0400 > Hi, Angel, > > If I get real ambitious and write the definitive expose' on why > "Project Exile" is the best thing for the "right to keep and bear > arms" since the discovery of smokeless powder, would you have the > "good sense" publish same on your site? > > Keep the Faith, > > Neal Sure. If you don't mind publishing your eddress so I don't have to invest hours on end listening to people shotgun your false assumptions, oversights and miscalcualtions. :-) Knock yourself out. Stick it here: https://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNPAdd.asp Better yet, and much preferred, be the first to challenge exact excerpts from the Project Exile Condemnation Coalition's statement -- so you can heal us poor, misguided fools of our afflictions: http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com/exile2 Shamaya Smartaleck

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RE: IP: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carn
by Declan McCullagh 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

ivore us e Cc: "Albertazzie, Sally" <SAlbertazzie(a)steptoe.com> To: "Baker, Stewart" <SBaker(a)steptoe.com>, farber(a)cis.upenn.edu, ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com Subject: RE: IP: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carn ivore us e Cc: "Albertazzie, Sally" <SAlbertazzie(a)steptoe.com> Stu, Maybe you're right. Maybe this expansion of warrantless surveillance powers is unobjectionable. Maybe the FBI and the state law enforcement agencies that will be able to legally use Carnivore without a court order in some circumstances will prove entirely trustworthy. Maybe they truly do need this power in emergencies. Maybe it'll even stop some terrorists. Maybe you're correct to say, "What's the big deal?" But let's have that discussion in public, during daylight hours, in a hearing room where reasoned conversation can take place. Let's ask the FBI director and the attorney general to testify, and let's invite representatives from groups like the ACLU, CDT and EPIC to join them. Let's allow senators to ask the bill's sponsors tough questions about what this oddly-written legislation really does. And let's give them as much time as they need to answer. What we shouldn't do is rush substantial rewrites of wiretapping law through the Senate in the middle of the night, just two days after the worst terrorist attack ever, when the country is in the throes of a national emergency. What we shouldn't do is have the legislation's sponsors -- and I don't doubt that they have the best of intentions -- hand it to their fellow senators just 30 minutes or so before a vote, which is what reportedly happened Thursday night. Stu, you've worked both in the government and in the private sector. You've studied wiretap law more closely than nearly anyone else. You know how it works. But would most senators know offhand what expanding wiretapping to include "any criminal violation of sections 2332, 2332a, 2332b, 2332d, 2339A, or 2339B" means? This is what Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the chairman of the Judiciary committee and a former prosecutor, said during the floor debate: "Do we really show respect to the American people by slapping something together, something that nobody on the floor can explain, and say we are changing the duties of the Attorney General, the Director of the CIA, the U.S. attorneys, we are going to change your rights as Americans, your rights to privacy? We are going to do it with no hearings, no debate. We are going to do it with numbers on a page that nobody can understand." Senator Carl Levin of Michigan said he had no time to read what he was being asked to vote on, adding that he had been told the bill was merely an anti-terrorism measure but it seemed to do far more: "I am trying to understand what is in it since it came to me for the first time tonight. I want to be very clear, at least the way I read this, that this is not something that is just limited to counterterrorism, about which I think all of us would have a passion." The spending bill to which the wiretap legislation ("Combating Terrorism Act of 2001") was attached will have to go to conference committee and then, probably, both chambers of Congress for another vote. That process means the bill won't become law for weeks at best. During that time, Congress could have held at least one hearing on the bill; in fact, Leahy said he would have done so immediately. If the bill is so vital to our national security, couldn't it survive a straight up-or-down floor vote, rather than be attached to a massive must-pass appropriations bill for the Justice, Commerce, and State departments? As a side note, even if you believe the language to be unobjectionable, Senate Judiciary committee aides told me they believe the wording of the bill -- apparently hastily-drafted, complete with typos -- may cover the content of communications, not just origin-desination information. If they're not sure, and they had a full day to read it by the time I spoke with them Friday, how can you be so positive your interpretation is correct? Even if you're right, doesn't it make sense to double-check? During the next few months and years, we may see calls for restricting the freedoms Americans have enjoyed as a way to respond to and thwart terrorists. Many of these new laws and regulations are unobjectionable; I don't mind tighter temporary security around government buildings and airports. But others are more deserving of enlightened discussion and debate. Let's hope that happens, not in the darkness of midnight votes, but in public in the light of day. -Declan ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: IP: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps,
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Carnivore us e Cc: SAlbertazzie(a)steptoe.com, SBaker(a)steptoe.com Dave, I'm glad to see Stu joining the civil libertarian crowd. He's right, of course, that there are reasons to be uneasy about the new "Combating Terrorism Act." Current law permits specific Justice Department officials to authorize meatspace telephone pen register and trap and trace devices without a court order in two circumstances. Here's an excerpt from the U.S. Code: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/3125.html >an emergency situation exists that involves immediate danger of death or >serious bodily injury to any person [or] conspiratorial activities >characteristic of organized crime This bill does three things of note: 1. It adds "U.S. Attorney" to the list of officials who can authorize warantless surveillance. 2. It expands the "emergency situation" rule beyond serious bodily injury/organized crime. I described this in my article: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html >Circumstances that don't require court orders include an "immediate threat >to the national security interests of the United States, (an) immediate >threat to public health or safety or an attack on the integrity or >availability of a protected computer." That covers most computer hacking >offenses. 3. It rewrites pen register/trap and trace law and moves it from the telephone world to explicitly cover computer networks as well, which would permit Carnivore's use under this section (when operated in trap-and-trace/pen-register mode). Here are some excerpts from the bill: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html >The order shall, upon service of the order, apply to any entity providing >wire or electronic communication service in the United States... inserting >``, routing, addressing,'' after ``dialing''... by striking ``call >processing'' and inserting ``the processing and transmitting of wire and >electronic communications''... Now, whether all this is, as Stu blandly suggests, "a bit alarmist," is up to IPers to decide. But I think Senator Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, put it well during the floor debate last night. Here's a quote from the Congressional Record. http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s091301.html >LEAHY: Maybe the Senate wants to just go ahead and adopt new abilities to >wiretap our citizens. Maybe they want to adopt new abilities to go into >people's computers. Maybe that will make us feel safer. Maybe. And maybe >what the terrorists have done made us a little bit less safe. Maybe they >have increased Big Brother in this country. -Declan **********

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None
by James A.. Donald 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> Origami world. To be honest, I was thinking about lots dots - no easily inferred shapes, but pretty obvious for a human. If the state-of-the-art software using neural nets and what not is capable of reading even *letters* made up of many dots (circles) in different colors, shapes, and textures (and with many "false" dots in colors that blend in the background for the human eye), then the programmers are much more advanced than anything I read about. > Computer generates a random 3D object out of large polygons with fairly > sharp angles of contact, subject to various limits on the way in which the > object is generated. Displays 2D image of 3D object. > > Human infers 3D object from 2D image, infers unseen portions of the image > from rules by which the 3D image is generated -- for example that the > object must make sense mechanically -- that it should be stable resting on > a plane. I don't know how well people would manage to do that. One requirement was to be easy for a human to answer the puzzle. Mark

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Work on your site without being online
by "WonderPaint - support"＠wonderpaint.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>From: Ron Guthrie - rcguthrie(a)earthlink.net >Subject: Problems with my Beseen free hit counter? (Issue #434) > >I have a Beseen free hit counter on my index page of my website. >Everytime I download it from the Internet to make any changes on >it and try and upload the page my hit counter presents a pop up >window saying there is an older version already on the page and >asks if I want to use it or the newer version... Anyone familiar >with this problem? What do you mean download the page!? You should have a copy of your complete website available on your local computer. Thus you can work on the site without an internet connection. With an online connection absolute URL's like a BeSeen counter will still function on your local site. Sure it will throw the actual counter numbers off a little ... but those things aren't 100% accurate anyway. (Next time you see one on someone's page try hitting "Reload" a couple times.) Having a local copy of your site means you can make changes and ascertain that changes are acceptable before uploading. Most importantly, it protects you from losing the entire website if something happens to your service provider. If his hard drive crashes tomorrow are you ready to rebuild your site from scratch? Finally, FTP your redesigned pages to the server. Overwrite the existing file and you'll never have "helpful" software agents disagreeing with your changes. Jim Shofstall webmaster(a)wonderpaint.com http://www.wonderpaint.com ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in... ------------------------------------------------- My.WS Affiate Program-10 Levels Deep! 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Plus, you can also win a chance to have y our site chosen for a free website redesign. One randomly drawn winner each month! SITES TO REVIEW: Site #136: http://www.edollars.homestead.com N Venugopal Rao nvengo(a)rediffmail.com Site #137: http://www.traces.nu Luc info(a)traces.nu Site #138: http://www.mysticforest.net April Williams xena6(a)bellsouth.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SITE REVIEWED! Comments on Site #135: http://www.alabastercove.com webmaster(a)alabastercove.com ~~~~ I like the look of the site, colors are nice. Both the logo and the header need to be optimized for the web to improve the resolution. Too grainy and distorted. Background for the logo and header need to be uniform. Yes, you do say that this site is unlike any other. It is, however, a site that I would not bookmark nor return to. Why? Just too much stuff! Nothing clearly states the purpose of the site nor tells the visitor what to do. ~~~~ I reviewed site # 135 alabastercove.com i use Internet explorer 5.0 and I have to say I never made it past the first 2 pages. Between several pop up windows (gosh I hate those!) and poor display with windows covering text on the first paragraph i just couldn't force myself to take any more time there! It's a shame as it looks like it's an interesting site with great recipes. Please lose some of the pop up windows! ~~~~ First Impression: opening page = nice I was ready for a stroll at a beach expecting to be invited to spend a relaxing weekend at a lovely place on the beach. If that is actually part of this site someplace, I never found it. Still on page one: The animated banner is a little annoying. I prefer static banners. But this page is okay and left me with anticipation. Then the nightmare began. pop up banners from every corner it seemed. The one with the camera took up the entire screen and I thought that that was "IT." When closing that window, there was again a page filled with a jumble of recipes, and heavens knows what else. I never found the beach I wanted to relax on. So I went home, disappointed. The color grey/subdued pink is really nice and if you do have a beach to share I'd love to see pictures but I surely am not willing to wade through a mile of flotsam before I get there. In other words, pages which have tons of pop-ups, flashing banners etc. are just so annoying even relative newbies like myself will not hang around, much less the more sophisticated surfer. ~~~~ The first time I clicked into this site it took forever for the front page to load (specifically the lighthouse graphic). I have a slow connection, but this one was one of the slowest sites I've come across. After it was in my cache and I went back again later, it wasn't so bad. In trying to see what the site was about, I almost gave up and quit clicking things when nothing ever came up. If it wasn't for the fact that I was trying to review it, I would have given up before I got to the Y4 page. I think you will lose any traffic that makes it past the slow-loading front page unless you put something in those blank pages to let them know you really are there and have a purpose. ~~~~ This website made a promising start and I was pleased to see a navigation bar on the top of each page. However, each page has no content although one is invited to search on each page (but search for what?) They appear to auction on Ebay and take PayPal but I couldn't find any products or any info from clicking the smart top navigation bar and gave up after a few pages. This website desperately needs some content! There's little point in having navigation bars with links to FAQs, About Us, etc when each page is an identical blank one... ~~~~ I hate pop up windows - especially those that take forever to load, and completely cover the original website - you never know where you really are. This site needs a professional touch - the navigation links are hard to read, and the click-on logo on page one is - well, I not very clear!!! The gray background is dreary and the pages take too long to load. ~~~~ I don't know why you would want someone to be able to view your site statistics, but I have never seen that before so I clicked it. You had 1 visitor today and that might be me. You had twelve visitors this week, and your site is full of ads for companies that can explode your web traffic. The top 5 links box was in my way. It took forever to load the page (56k) probably because of all the scripts you have running your popups. 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One randomly drawn winner each month!   SITES TO REVIEW: Site #136:  <a href="http://www.edollars.homestead.com">http://www.edollars.homestead.com</a> N Venugopal Rao nvengo(a)rediffmail.com Site #137:  <a href="http://www.traces.nu">http://www.traces.nu</a> Luc info(a)traces.nu Site #138:  <a href="http://www.mysticforest.net">http://www.mysticforest.net</a> April Williams xena6(a)bellsouth.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SITE  REVIEWED! Comments on Site #135:  <a href="http://www.alabastercove.com">http://www.alabastercove.com</a> webmaster(a)alabastercove.com ~~~~ I like the look of the site, colors are nice. Both the logo and the header need to be optimized for the web to improve the resolution.  Too grainy and distorted.  Background for the logo and header need to be uniform. Yes, you do say that this site is unlike any other.  It is, however, a site that I would not bookmark nor return to. Why?  Just too much stuff!  Nothing clearly states the purpose of the site nor tells the visitor what to do. ~~~~ I reviewed site # 135 alabastercove.com  i use Internet explorer 5.0 and I have to say I never made it past the first 2 pages. Between several pop up windows (gosh I hate those!) and poor display with windows covering text on the first paragraph i just couldn't force myself to take any more time there! It's a shame as it looks like it's an interesting site with great recipes.  Please lose some of the pop up windows! ~~~~ First Impression: opening page = nice I was ready for a stroll at a beach expecting to be invited to spend a relaxing weekend at a lovely place on the beach. If that is actually part of this site someplace, I never found it. Still on page one: The animated banner is a little annoying. I prefer static banners. But this page is okay and left me with anticipation. Then the nightmare began. pop up banners from every corner it seemed. The one with the camera took up the entire screen and I thought that that was "IT." When closing that window, there was again a page filled with a jumble of recipes, and heavens knows what else. I never found the beach I wanted to relax on. So I went home, disappointed. The color grey/subdued pink is really nice and if you do have a beach to share I'd love to see pictures but I surely am not willing to wade through a mile of flotsam before I get there. In other words, pages which have tons of pop-ups, flashing banners etc. are just so annoying even relative newbies like myself will not hang around, much less the more sophisticated surfer. ~~~~ The first time I clicked into this site it took forever for the front page to load (specifically the lighthouse graphic).  I have a slow connection, but this one was one of the slowest sites I've come across. After it was in my cache and I went back again later, it wasn't so bad. In trying to see what the site was about, I almost gave up and quit clicking things when nothing ever came up.  If it wasn't for the fact that I was trying to review it, I would have given up before I got to the Y4 page.  I think you will lose any traffic that makes it past the slow-loading front page unless you put something in those blank pages to let them know you really are there and have a purpose. ~~~~ This website made a promising start and I was pleased to see a navigation bar on the top of each page.  However, each page has no content although one is invited to search on each page (but search for what?) They appear to auction on Ebay and take PayPal but I couldn't find any products or any info from clicking the smart top navigation bar and gave up after a few pages.  This website desperately needs some content!  There's little point in having navigation bars with links to FAQs, About Us, etc when each page is an identical blank one... ~~~~ I hate pop up windows - especially those that take forever to load, and completely cover the original website - you never know where you really are. This site needs a professional touch - the navigation links are hard to read, and the click-on logo on page one is - well, I not very clear!!! The gray background is dreary and the pages take too long to load. ~~~~ I don't know why you would want someone to be able to view your site statistics, but I have never seen that before so I clicked it.  You had 1 visitor today and that might be me.  You had twelve visitors this week, and your site is full of ads for companies that can explode your web traffic. 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Can images be coded so they cannot be downloaded?
by "Peggy Halverson - pegnorth"＠northernnet.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hello: As a Web Designer, I am sure many other designers have this same question. I am ready to post a website live that has a famous picture on it. My client is wondering if it can be coded so that the images cannot be downloaded or copied from the website. Would you know what coding to use to do this? I know it exists, but have not been able to find it. The ones that do have it of course only have one sentence on the "View Source" function about it being a secure page. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You, Peggy Halverson DESIGNETT Web Design & Development www.designett.com admin(a)designett.com ANSWERS:

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Re: Public Key Infrastructure: An Artifact...
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Ben Laurie wrote: > Bram Cohen wrote: > > > > And if you build a protocol which is a pain to use, noone will use it. > > What, like SSL, for example? SSL is not a pain to use, and it isn't effective against man in the middle attacks, since an attacker could simply make the end user connection be done via unencrypted http and most end users wouldn't notice. It is, however, quite effective against passive attacks, which is all that's really important. -Bram Cohen

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[thingiverse] 3D printing & intellectual property rights - So why
by Michael＠Oz 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

are we bothering with GPL,CC etc licenses? To: thingiverse(a)googlegroups.com I came across the following and thought a precis may be handy. It implies much of what is on the 'verse is not copyrightable (apart from the artistic stuff), just useful articles. It would even be questionable whether scad programs are copyright. So are the licensing aspects bogus? I started out thinking so, but read on... http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting *"In a practical sense, copyrights and patents are mutually exclusive. If you have a useful article you cannot protect it with a copyright. Conversely, you will not be issued a patent on an artistic work.[9]<http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn9>That means that if something is eligible for patent protection b even if it does not have patent protection b it cannot be protected by copyright. This dichotomy is part of the reason why most of the physical world is not protected by any type of intellectual property. Most physical objects serve some utilitarian function, which means that they are not eligible for >copyright protection."* *"As 3D printing and modeling grow in popularity, it is likely that we will see more companies and individuals assuming they have a copyright for a design or object and demanding removal of unauthorized versions. While most modern songs, movies, and pictures are protected by copyright, the same cannot be said for physical objects. For that reason, when a site receives a takedown request it may be wise to at least consider if the object is protected by copyright in the first place."* "*For 3D printing, this digital form is often that of an .stl file.<http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn43>These files can be thought of as the object equivalent of a .pdf file b they are more or less universally printable by 3D printers and allow objects to be transferred digitally around the world.<http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn44>But are they protected by copyright? And if they are protected by copyright, what does that mean? * * .Stl files are certainly protect able by copyright. Copyright law specifically mentions "maps, globes, charts, diagrams, models, and technical drawings, including architectural plans" as included within the scope of works eligible for protection.<http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn45> However, that does not automatically mean that every design file for a physical object is actually protected by copyright. * * * * After all, if a given diagram is the only practical way to virtually represent a physical object, a copyright on that diagram would prevent anyone from making any virtual versions of the object.<http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn46>This would give the holder of that copyright a great deal of control over the distribution and manufacture of the object itself. * * In order to avoid this outcome, copyright law limits the copyrightability of these types of works" "Furthermore, even if the design file is protected by copyright, creating a physical version will not infringe on any copyright that exists in the file. No copyright on the design of a useful object extends copyright protection to the object itself." ..."**Furthermore, there is some indication that copying a file of a useful object protected by copyright for the purposes of creating the useful object is not copyright infringement." * *"One way to avoid some of these thorny copyright questions is by distributing objects and designs with permissive licenses such as those provided by Creative Commons.Unfortunately this solution can break down when applied to physical objects beyond the scope of copyright. To put it simply, you cannot license what you do not have."* *"All of that being said, licensing of noncopyrightable files can serve at least two useful purposes b one legal and one cultural.* * * *"The legal purpose is something of a hedge against future legal change. As detailed in this paper, there are many open questions surrounding just what types (and parts) of objects are and are not protectable by copyright. Granting a license today means that the usage conditions of the object are clear no matter how copyright law evolves in the future. As long as the creator does not believe that merely granting the license gives them the right to control non-copyrightable parts of the work, there is little downside to futureproofing the status of the object.* * * *The second, cultural, purpose is probably the more important one. Licensing can be an important signaling device even when it is not legally enforceable. Attaching a Creative Commons license is a signal that the creator wants to include her work in an ever-expanding and evolving network of creativity. It gives the rest of the community confidence that they can build on the object."* * * <http://www.publicknowledge.org/Copyright-3DPrinting#_ftn55> -- -- Go visit thingiverse at http://thingiverse.com and stay tuned to the blog at http://blog.thingiverse.com. 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Alternative Physics - Tom Bearden's site
by Gary Jeffers 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Alternative Physics - Tom Bearden's site My fellow Cypherpunks, I've found a really interesting site based on alternative physics. http://www.cheniere.org - Tom Bearden's site. The site also deals with free energy, zero point energy, scalars, health physics, alternate physics weapons, and mind control physics. Some of Bearden's interesting pages: THE FINAL SECRET OF FREE ENERGY http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/final%secret%209%20feb%201993/index.html - It may or may not be necessary to replace "%" with blanks. ANNOTATED GLOSSARY BY TOM BEARDEN (of physics) http://www.intalek.com/warpdrive/glossary1.pdf Some teasing bait for physicists: 34 FLAWS IN CLASSICAL EM THEORY http://www.cheniere.org/misc/34flaws.htm A VISUAL TOUR OF WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT ELECTRICAL CIRCUITS http://www.cheniere.org/briefings/circuitcurrents/index.html If this site is true then "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG!" The quote is from FireSign Theater - a comedy group. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers Beat State! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
by Hahaha 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the Seven Dwarfs enter...

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