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[ogsa-wg] OGSA-WG and fellow WG Winter F2F Survey
by Hiro Kishimoto 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Hi all, and sorry for the cross-posting. OGSA-WG and fellow WGs are planning to have Winter F2F meeting in December or January. At the OGSA-WG F2F meeting in week before last, I took action item to ask all expected attendees for their availability for Winter F2F meeting. Please take the time to fill in the following online survey by next Monday (September 5th). We hope to decide date and city next week. Post the survey on a Web site - use this URL: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224LBPWYVUT Thanks in advance, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: Meeting tomorrow
by Ayla Debora Dantas de Souza - Projeto Ourgrid 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi Dejan, I will be able to dial in tomorrow. Ayla Milojicic, Dejan S wrote: >Hi Stuart, Jun, and Ayla, > >I plan to start a phone conference, but if you guys are not going to >dial in, I may as well cancel the meeting. Steve is out tomorrow. >Pplease let me know. > >The agenda for tomorrow is > >1. Technical Q&A >2. Progress with reference implementations >3. Plans for demos >4. Follow up to F2F >5. Planning GGF >6. Various > >Thanks, > >Dejan. > > >

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RE: [cddlm] FW: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1558] CDDLM Deployment APIs
by Toft, Peter 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi Folks, Steve's on vacation until next Monday. He'll get onto this when he gets back. Well done to all on these document submissions. Cheers, Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-cddlm-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-cddlm-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of > Milojicic, Dejan S > Sent: 30 August 2005 17:48 > To: Loughran, Steve > Cc: cddlm-wg(a)ggf.org > Subject: [cddlm] FW: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1558] CDDLM > Deployment APIs > > Hi Steve, > > Below is the feedback we received from GGF editor. Will you be able to > look at these? Is there anything that you need help with from the team? > > These are primarily minor, editorial things, he gives you credits for > your work! Congratulations! > > Thanks, > > Dejan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sf-httpd(a)forge.gridforum.org [mailto:sf-httpd@forge.gridforum.org] > On Behalf Of Sourceforge Tracker Monitor > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:03 AM > To: dejan(a)hpl.hp.com > Subject: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1558] CDDLM Deployment APIs > > > Greg Newby changed 1558 on 2005-08-30 09:02:48 > > Status has changed: - New: 'Returned to Author(s)' Old: 'Initial > Editor Review' > Priority has changed: - New: '4' Old: '5' > Assigned To has changed: - New: 'John Tollefsrud' Old: 'Greg Newby' > Group has changed: - New: 'Management' Old: 'old-SRM' > Resolution has changed: - New: 'Remind' Old: '<None>' > > > Respond by visiting: > https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1558&group > _id=90 > (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1558&grou > p_id=90) > > Summary: CDDLM Deployment APIs > Project: EDITOR > Tracker: Submit GGF Draft > Artifact ID: 1558 > Category: Recommendations Track > Group: Management > Status: Returned to Author(s) > Resolution: Remind > Priority: 4 > Last Modified By: Greg Newby > Last Modified: 2005-08-30 09:02:48 > Submitted By: Dejan > Submit Date: * 2005-07-07 05:56:49 > Assigned To: John Tollefsrud > File(s): ggf-cddlm-deploy-api.doc > Description: > This document describes CDDLM Deployment APIs. The CDDLM framework needs > a deployment API for callers to deploy services described in the > component model languages. This API must support remote access for > deployment, terminating existing deployed systems, and for probing their > state. This document defines the WS-Resource Framework-based deployment > API for performing such tasks. It is targeted at those who implement > either end of the API. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Comment By: Greg Newby (2005-08-30 09:02:48) Thanks for this submission. > I have several items I would like to be fixed or responded to before > moving this document to the next phase of the review process. > > First is that the header states this is an informational track document > (GWD-I), but the tracker has Recommendations track submitted. Which is > the intent of the working group? > > For these other comments, use the template in the Editor tracker, or a > recently published GGF document, as an example: > > Second, please fill in the compete information for the 13 Editor > section. > > Third, "12 Security" should be "12 Security Considerations." > > Fourth, the references nearly all need a lot of work. References need > to be complete: > - author (or corporate author) > - title and (if applicable) volume > - publication location (for online sources, the publisher/organization's > location) > > For online materials, they may only be cited in the References section > if they are persistent documents - not to Web sites or other transient > content. For citation fo something like a WG's homepage or > organization, use an inline reference or footnote, for example, in text: > "The Global Grid Forum (http://www.ggf.org)" instead of putting the > hyperlink in the References section. > > I don't think *any* of the references are complete, and several are > simply hyperlinks that don't belong in the References section. > > Here is the rule of thumb for references: you need to provide sufficient > information so that a future reader (say, in 10 years) can use your > reference to find the exact same document you used in your authoring. > If it seems unlikely the same document will be available (for example, > because a Web page will have changed), then this might be a better > candidate for inline citation or a footnote. > > Fifth, the GGF logo, copyright statement and IP notice are misplaced > (see the sample documents), and you don't need to include the logo. > > Sixth, page footers are missing except on the first page (they don't > need to be on the first page, but should be on the other pages). Email > address, also page number. > > Seventh, the Status and Abstract headings don't match the rest of the > document, or the GGF's other samples. > > I'm sorry for this big list of changes. As you see, none of them are > focused on the content -- it's all about the presentation & formatting, > consistently with the GGF standards. > > I did read the content, too -- to me, this appears to be a well-written > document, and presents valuable information. > Once you have re-submitted with the above suggestions addressed, we'll > continue to advance it through the editor pipeline as specified in > GFD-C.1. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > View the Submit GGF Draft : > https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&at > id=414 > (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&a > tid=414) > > ________________________________________ > Modify your monitoring preferences: > https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php > (https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php) > Turn off monitoring for this Tracker: > https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1558&func= > monitor > (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1558&func > =monitor)

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FW: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1558] CDDLM Deployment APIs
by Milojicic, Dejan S 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi Steve, Below is the feedback we received from GGF editor. Will you be able to look at these? Is there anything that you need help with from the team? These are primarily minor, editorial things, he gives you credits for your work! Congratulations! Thanks, Dejan. -----Original Message----- From: sf-httpd(a)forge.gridforum.org [mailto:sf-httpd@forge.gridforum.org] On Behalf Of Sourceforge Tracker Monitor Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:03 AM To: dejan(a)hpl.hp.com Subject: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1558] CDDLM Deployment APIs Greg Newby changed 1558 on 2005-08-30 09:02:48 Status has changed: - New: 'Returned to Author(s)' Old: 'Initial Editor Review' Priority has changed: - New: '4' Old: '5' Assigned To has changed: - New: 'John Tollefsrud' Old: 'Greg Newby' Group has changed: - New: 'Management' Old: 'old-SRM' Resolution has changed: - New: 'Remind' Old: '<None>' Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1558&group _id=90 (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1558&grou p_id=90) Summary: CDDLM Deployment APIs Project: EDITOR Tracker: Submit GGF Draft Artifact ID: 1558 Category: Recommendations Track Group: Management Status: Returned to Author(s) Resolution: Remind Priority: 4 Last Modified By: Greg Newby Last Modified: 2005-08-30 09:02:48 Submitted By: Dejan Submit Date: * 2005-07-07 05:56:49 Assigned To: John Tollefsrud File(s): ggf-cddlm-deploy-api.doc Description: This document describes CDDLM Deployment APIs. The CDDLM framework needs a deployment API for callers to deploy services described in the component model languages. This API must support remote access for deployment, terminating existing deployed systems, and for probing their state. This document defines the WS-Resource Framework-based deployment API for performing such tasks. It is targeted at those who implement either end of the API. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Greg Newby (2005-08-30 09:02:48) Thanks for this submission. I have several items I would like to be fixed or responded to before moving this document to the next phase of the review process. First is that the header states this is an informational track document (GWD-I), but the tracker has Recommendations track submitted. Which is the intent of the working group? For these other comments, use the template in the Editor tracker, or a recently published GGF document, as an example: Second, please fill in the compete information for the 13 Editor section. Third, "12 Security" should be "12 Security Considerations." Fourth, the references nearly all need a lot of work. References need to be complete: - author (or corporate author) - title and (if applicable) volume - publication location (for online sources, the publisher/organization's location) For online materials, they may only be cited in the References section if they are persistent documents - not to Web sites or other transient content. For citation fo something like a WG's homepage or organization, use an inline reference or footnote, for example, in text: "The Global Grid Forum (http://www.ggf.org)" instead of putting the hyperlink in the References section. I don't think *any* of the references are complete, and several are simply hyperlinks that don't belong in the References section. Here is the rule of thumb for references: you need to provide sufficient information so that a future reader (say, in 10 years) can use your reference to find the exact same document you used in your authoring. If it seems unlikely the same document will be available (for example, because a Web page will have changed), then this might be a better candidate for inline citation or a footnote. Fifth, the GGF logo, copyright statement and IP notice are misplaced (see the sample documents), and you don't need to include the logo. Sixth, page footers are missing except on the first page (they don't need to be on the first page, but should be on the other pages). Email address, also page number. Seventh, the Status and Abstract headings don't match the rest of the document, or the GGF's other samples. I'm sorry for this big list of changes. As you see, none of them are focused on the content -- it's all about the presentation & formatting, consistently with the GGF standards. I did read the content, too -- to me, this appears to be a well-written document, and presents valuable information. Once you have re-submitted with the above suggestions addressed, we'll continue to advance it through the editor pipeline as specified in GFD-C.1. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- View the Submit GGF Draft : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&at id=414 (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&a tid=414) ________________________________________ Modify your monitoring preferences: https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php (https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php) Turn off monitoring for this Tracker: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1558&func= monitor (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1558&func =monitor)

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FW: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1553] CDDLM Component Model
by Milojicic, Dejan S 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi, Component model is on the way to be reviewed by the GF Steering Group. Congratulations Stuart! Best regards, Dejan. -----Original Message----- From: sf-httpd(a)forge.gridforum.org [mailto:sf-httpd@forge.gridforum.org] On Behalf Of Sourceforge Tracker Monitor Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:01 AM To: dejan(a)hpl.hp.com Subject: [ggf-editor | Submit GGF Draft - 1553] CDDLM Component Model Greg Newby changed 1553 on 2005-08-30 08:00:42 Status has changed: - New: 'GFSG Review' Old: 'Initial Editor Review' Priority has changed: - New: '4' Old: '5' Assigned To has changed: - New: 'John Tollefsrud' Old: 'Greg Newby' Group has changed: - New: 'Management' Old: 'old-SRM' Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1553&group _id=90 (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=414&aid=1553&grou p_id=90) Summary: CDDLM Component Model Project: EDITOR Tracker: Submit GGF Draft Artifact ID: 1553 Category: Recommendations Track Group: Management Status: GFSG Review Resolution: <None> Priority: 4 Last Modified By: Greg Newby Last Modified: 2005-08-30 08:00:42 Submitted By: Dejan Submit Date: * 2005-06-28 14:11:06 Assigned To: John Tollefsrud File(s): draft-ggf-cddlm-component-model.doc Description: This document provides information to the community regarding the specification of the Configuration Description, Deployment, and Lifecycle Management (CDDLM) Component Model. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Greg Newby (2005-08-30 08:00:42) Thanks for this submission, and I apologize for my delay in responding. I have read this document, and believe it is ready for GFSG 15-day review, prior to public comment. Due from the GFSG Wednesday September 14 (or the GFSG conference call right afterwards: Tuesday September 20). There are a few minor formatting issues: - the GGF intellectual property statement can appear later, and does not need the GGF logo (see the sample documents in the Editor tracker, or recent published documents for examples) - the page footer (email address & page numbers) needs to be added These do not need to be fixed prior to public comment, unless some larger issues are raised (i.e., during the GFSG review), but will need to be fixed prior to publication. If the author/editor would like to submit a revised document, please go ahead and do so to this tracker. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- View the Submit GGF Draft : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&at id=414 (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=90&a tid=414) ________________________________________ Modify your monitoring preferences: https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php (https://forge.gridforum.org/monitoring/monitorPreference.php) Turn off monitoring for this Tracker: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1553&func= monitor (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?group_id=90&atid=414&aid=1553&func =monitor)

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FW: [cddlm] RE: Reminder: meeting tomorrow (Wed 8/24 PST)
by Milojicic, Dejan S 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Hi Team, In the light of our interest in JSDL, can you please take a look at the JSDL documents which are in the public period. Thi sis the best way to make bridges between the two groups and two technologies. Thanks, Dejan. -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Savva [mailto:andreas.savva@jp.fujitsu.com] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:26 AM To: Milojicic, Dejan S Cc: Ali Anjomshoaa; Darren Pulsipher; Steve McGough Subject: Re: [cddlm] RE: Reminder: meeting tomorrow (Wed 8/24 PST) Hi Dejan, > ... JSDL is of interest. (Putting on my JSDL hat) JSDL 1.0 is currently in public comment, ending Sep. 10. Could I encourage you and the rest of the CDDLM team to review the spec (if you haven't done so already) and submit any comments you may have? Just in case, here's the url to the spec and the way to submit: http://www.ggf.org/ggf_docs_public.htm Thanks. Andreas Milojicic, Dejan S wrote: > Notes from the meeting held on 8/24, 6am PST, notes taker Dejan. > > >>Agenda: >> >>1. reflecting on the F2F > > > Steve's reflection: A lot of presenting. Wrt ACS, how is it different > than large data store, why do they try to do something separate? > Apache and Java data stores exist, how do they differ and relate. For > us, it is good to have only to care about URLs. JSDL is of interest. > > There have been notes posted earlier today, URL is: > > >>2. update on the testing & reference implementations > > > Steve: Starting doing Deployment APIs. Has plans only until October. > > Ayla: has some problems with WS-Notification, addresses it together > with Steve. They will continue discussions offline and Ayla will post > the questions. There are also problems with the component model > lifecycle while doing unit test. > > >>3. planning GGF15 in Boston > > > Steve is working on planning his trip. Ayla has some issue with visa, > otherwise she is planning attendance as well. Based on previous > discussions, Stuart and Jun will also attend. Dejan will attend. > > We are planning for two sessions: > > 1. testing reference implementations, interoperability 2. integration > with other specs > > 3. EMS (OGSA will schedule) > 4. Open question, do we want to request an additional meeting for any > other group? JSDL comes to mind 5. Demonstration of the working > reference implementations. I will have to explicitly request > additional meeting for this purpose. We can only schedule two > meetings. > > >>4. various > > > Thanks, > > Dejan. > -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Component Model Events
by Ayla Debora Dantas de Souza - Projeto Ourgrid 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Hi, is there a document such as the deployment-api-system-events.xml and deployment-api-portal-events.xml for the component model which explicitly defines the topics the Component Model specification demands? Thanks, Ayla

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RE: Reminder: meeting tomorrow (Wed 8/24 PST)
by Milojicic, Dejan S 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Notes from the meeting held on 8/24, 6am PST, notes taker Dejan. > Agenda: > > 1. reflecting on the F2F Steve's reflection: A lot of presenting. Wrt ACS, how is it different than large data store, why do they try to do something separate? Apache and Java data stores exist, how do they differ and relate. For us, it is good to have only to care about URLs. JSDL is of interest. There have been notes posted earlier today, URL is: > 2. update on the testing & reference implementations Steve: Starting doing Deployment APIs. Has plans only until October. Ayla: has some problems with WS-Notification, addresses it together with Steve. They will continue discussions offline and Ayla will post the questions. There are also problems with the component model lifecycle while doing unit test. > 3. planning GGF15 in Boston Steve is working on planning his trip. Ayla has some issue with visa, otherwise she is planning attendance as well. Based on previous discussions, Stuart and Jun will also attend. Dejan will attend. We are planning for two sessions: 1. testing reference implementations, interoperability 2. integration with other specs 3. EMS (OGSA will schedule) 4. Open question, do we want to request an additional meeting for any other group? JSDL comes to mind 5. Demonstration of the working reference implementations. I will have to explicitly request additional meeting for this purpose. We can only schedule two meetings. > 4. various Thanks, Dejan.

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Reminder: meeting tomorrow (Wed 8/24 PST)
by Milojicic, Dejan S 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Hi, We shall have a usual meeting tomorrow at 6am. We will use our usual numbers: +1 866-639-4732 (toll free while in US) Code 2362906 (followed by a '#' sign) +1 574-948-0379 (toll & international) Agenda: 1. reflecting on the F2F 2. update on the testing & reference implementations 3. planning GGF15 in Boston 4. various Thanks, Dejan. -----Original Message----- From: Milojicic, Dejan S Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:48 PM To: 'cddlm-wg(a)ggf.org' Subject: No meeting tomorrow (Wed 8/17 PST) Hi, We had a very successful OGSA/EMS - CDDLM meeting today. Thanks to all participants! We will not have the CDDLM meeting tomorrow. Next meeting will take place next week, 8/24, 6am PST. Thanks, Dejan.

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RE: CDDLM Smartfrog doc accepted
by Milojicic, Dejan S 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Many Thanks John, We appreciate all your help throughout the process. We are looking forward to completing the process for the remaining three specs. More importantly the implementation and testing never stopped during spec submissions so we are even more so pleased to have increasing levels of reference implementations at the forthcoming GGFs, followed by interoperability further out. I would like to reserve some time with you at Boston to pin down more specifically the requirements for the formal standard promotion based on the existing interoperable reference implementations. This is especially important for the interoperability between SmartFrog and XML-Based CDDLM language. I am cc-in the CDDLM mailing list on the reply and the key contributors to the CDDLM work: Steve Loughran, Stuart Schaefer, and Jun Tatemura. Of course, the key contributor to this spec is Patrick Goldsack (father of the SmartFrog). Most recent additions to the team is group from Brazil, led by Ayla, who pursue an independent reference implementation. In particular, I'd like to thank Hiro for his support in getting CDDLM closer to the EMS/OGSA-WG. This will be key for the adoption of CDDLM within the GGF community and putting it onto the OGSA landscape. This should be just a beginning of a string of successes of the CDDLM team. I am fortunate to have an opportunity to work on it. Best regards, Dejan. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tollefsrud [mailto:john.tollefsrud@sun.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:17 PM > To: tkojo(a)mvi.biglobe.ne.jp; Dejan Milojicic > Cc: Hiro Kishimoto > Subject: CDDLM Smartfrog doc accepted > > You may have seen Greg Newby's comment in the tracker, but > I'm pleased to report the GFSG agreed today to accept the > CDDLM Smartfrog document for publication as a Proposed > Recommendation. The editor will be applying some formatting > changes (fonts etc), date, document number etc., which may > take one or more weeks to complete. > > Congratulations and many thanks to you and your team for this > latest publication in the CDDLM document series! > > jt

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