Re: Astro-RG/ IVOA joint one day workshop
Hi Nic, Thanks. Am forwarding to the communicy council so that it can be discussede ASAP. The GGF17 program is yet to be formulated, but make sure it is on the radar. GGF17 should be a pretty gigantic event being coupled with GridWorld Tokyo. Satoshi On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:57 +0000 (GMT) Nicholas Walton <naw@ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote: naw> Dear Thilo, Satoshi, naw> naw> as the astro-rg apps community, we'd like to organise a joint one day naw> workshop in conjunction with the IVOA (see www.ivoa.net) at the upcoming naw> GGF in Tokyo (May 06). naw> naw> The purpose of this email is to ask what are the current procedures for naw> proposing such a workshop, and importantly deadlines for receipt or a naw> request by the GGF. naw> naw> many thanks, naw> naw> Nic naw> naw> ======================================================================== naw> Dr N. A. Walton naw> (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) naw> (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) naw> Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 naw> University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 naw> Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw naw> Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk naw> ======================================================================== naw> Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu@acm.org, matsu@is.titech.ac.jp
Nic, We should definitely make sure this happens. It's not too soon to start planning. The official deadline for GGF-17 workshops should be a week after GGF-16. Did you want to structure it just as a set of watercooler talks, or did you want to try to get peer-reviewed talks with a proceedings? --Craig At 03:05 PM 12/12/2005, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
Hi Nic,
Thanks. Am forwarding to the communicy council so that it can be discussede ASAP. The GGF17 program is yet to be formulated, but make sure it is on the radar.
GGF17 should be a pretty gigantic event being coupled with GridWorld Tokyo.
Satoshi
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:57 +0000 (GMT) Nicholas Walton <naw@ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
naw> Dear Thilo, Satoshi, naw> naw> as the astro-rg apps community, we'd like to organise a joint one day naw> workshop in conjunction with the IVOA (see www.ivoa.net) at the upcoming naw> GGF in Tokyo (May 06). naw> naw> The purpose of this email is to ask what are the current procedures for naw> proposing such a workshop, and importantly deadlines for receipt or a naw> request by the GGF. naw> naw> many thanks, naw> naw> Nic naw> naw> ======================================================================== naw> Dr N. A. Walton naw> (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) naw> (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) naw> Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 naw> University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 naw> Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw naw> Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk naw> ======================================================================== naw> Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu@acm.org, matsu@is.titech.ac.jp
Nic, I am very happy to invite the joint workshop to my observatory. I don't know the venue for GGF17, however, if it is held around Tokyo it is easy for people to visit our observatory. We have a large confeence room where more than 100 people can stay. Cheers, Masatoshi ********************************************** Masatoshi OHISHI National Astronomical Observatory of Japan 2-21-1, Osawa, Mitaka, Tokyo, 181-8588 JAPAN phone :+81-422-34-3575 (office) +81-90-3574-9474 (mobile) fax :+81-422-34-3840 e-mail:masatoshi.ohishi@nao.ac.jp **********************************************
It is at the Kokusai Forum in Yurakucho, so it is located within walking distance from Tokyo Station. So, NAO should be fairly accessible. s.matsuoka On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:52:07 +0900 Masatoshi OHISHI <masatoshi.ohishi@nao.ac.jp> wrote: masatoshi.ohishi> Nic, masatoshi.ohishi> masatoshi.ohishi> I am very happy to invite the joint workshop to my observatory. masatoshi.ohishi> I don't know the venue for GGF17, however, if it is held around Tokyo masatoshi.ohishi> it is easy for people to visit our observatory. We have a large confeence room masatoshi.ohishi> where more than 100 people can stay. masatoshi.ohishi> masatoshi.ohishi> Cheers, masatoshi.ohishi> Masatoshi masatoshi.ohishi> masatoshi.ohishi> masatoshi.ohishi> ********************************************** masatoshi.ohishi> Masatoshi OHISHI masatoshi.ohishi> National Astronomical Observatory of Japan masatoshi.ohishi> 2-21-1, Osawa, Mitaka, Tokyo, 181-8588 JAPAN masatoshi.ohishi> phone :+81-422-34-3575 (office) masatoshi.ohishi> +81-90-3574-9474 (mobile) masatoshi.ohishi> fax :+81-422-34-3840 masatoshi.ohishi> e-mail:masatoshi.ohishi@nao.ac.jp masatoshi.ohishi> ********************************************** masatoshi.ohishi> masatoshi.ohishi> Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu@acm.org, matsu@is.titech.ac.jp
Thanks, Matsuoka-san! It's about one hour between Tokyo station and our observatory. At 11:27 05/12/13 +0900, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
It is at the Kokusai Forum in Yurakucho, so it is located within walking distance from Tokyo Station. So, NAO should be fairly accessible.
Dear Craig xmas has come and gone - and its back to the idea of a ggf17 workshop. i think we have a week or so to get our proposal in. is there a pro-forma to submit? Cheers, Nic ======================================================================== Dr N. A. Walton (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk ======================================================================== On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Craig Lee wrote:
Nic,
We should definitely make sure this happens. It's not too soon to start planning. The official deadline for GGF-17 workshops should be a week after GGF-16. Did you want to structure it just as a set of watercooler talks, or did you want to try to get peer-reviewed talks with a proceedings?
--Craig
At 03:05 PM 12/12/2005, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
Hi Nic,
Thanks. Am forwarding to the communicy council so that it can be discussede ASAP. The GGF17 program is yet to be formulated, but make sure it is on the radar.
GGF17 should be a pretty gigantic event being coupled with GridWorld Tokyo.
Satoshi
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:57 +0000 (GMT) Nicholas Walton <naw@ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
naw> Dear Thilo, Satoshi, naw> naw> as the astro-rg apps community, we'd like to organise a joint one day naw> workshop in conjunction with the IVOA (see www.ivoa.net) at the upcoming naw> GGF in Tokyo (May 06). naw> naw> The purpose of this email is to ask what are the current procedures for naw> proposing such a workshop, and importantly deadlines for receipt or a naw> request by the GGF. naw> naw> many thanks, naw> naw> Nic naw> naw> ======================================================================== naw> Dr N. A. Walton naw> (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) naw> (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) naw> Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 naw> University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 naw> Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw naw> Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk naw> ======================================================================== naw> Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu@acm.org, matsu@is.titech.ac.jp
Nic, There is no specific form for workshop proposals -- just one or two pages that clearly describes the topic and goals of the workshop, the organizers, and the potential speakers, along with any other relevant information, such as other RGs and WGs that might be involved (or should be involved). Clearly we want to support the work of the Astro-RG and the IVOA, in addition to getting good cross-pollination with the rest of GGF ;-> --Craig At 01:11 PM 2/12/2006, Nicholas Walton wrote:
Dear Craig
xmas has come and gone - and its back to the idea of a ggf17 workshop. i think we have a week or so to get our proposal in. is there a pro-forma to submit?
Cheers, Nic
======================================================================== Dr N. A. Walton (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk ========================================================================
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Craig Lee wrote:
Nic,
We should definitely make sure this happens. It's not too soon to start planning. The official deadline for GGF-17 workshops should be a week after GGF-16. Did you want to structure it just as a set of watercooler talks, or did you want to try to get peer-reviewed talks with a proceedings?
--Craig
At 03:05 PM 12/12/2005, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
Hi Nic,
Thanks. Am forwarding to the communicy council so that it can be discussede ASAP. The GGF17 program is yet to be formulated, but make sure it is on the radar.
GGF17 should be a pretty gigantic event being coupled with GridWorld Tokyo.
Satoshi
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:57 +0000 (GMT) Nicholas Walton <naw@ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
naw> Dear Thilo, Satoshi, naw> naw> as the astro-rg apps community, we'd like to organise a joint one day naw> workshop in conjunction with the IVOA (see www.ivoa.net) at the
naw> GGF in Tokyo (May 06). naw> naw> The purpose of this email is to ask what are the current
upcoming procedures for
naw> proposing such a workshop, and importantly deadlines for receipt or a naw> request by the GGF. naw> naw> many thanks, naw> naw> Nic naw> naw> ======================================================================== naw> Dr N. A. Walton naw> (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) naw> (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) naw> Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 naw> University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 naw> Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw naw> Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk naw> ======================================================================== naw> Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu@acm.org, matsu@is.titech.ac.jp
Dear Craig we in Astro-RG and the IVOA (see http://www.ivoa.net) would like to propose organising a one-day workshop at GGF17 in Tokyo. We have put together our proposal, and would be pleased to know whether this is acceptable. If there is any more infomation that you require, please let us know. Yours, Nic Walton (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) (secretary IVOA) Masatoshi Ohishi (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) (chair IVOA) ------------------ Proposal for a Joint IVOA - GGF (Astro-RG) WorkShop =================================================== Tokyo @ GGF17 8 May 2006 Draft: Nic Walton 16 Feb 2006 A) Workshop Title Building a Global Virtual Observatory for Astronomy - Grid Standards and their Relevance in Use B) Proposed workshop organizer names and affiliations (possibly incl. review committee for type 2). Be sure to identify yourself if you are a chair of an existing RG/WG. Nicholas A Walton, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Co-Chair Astro-RG) Chenzhou Cui, National Astronomical Observatory, China Neil Geddes, NGS, RAL, UK Thilo Kielmann, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, NL (Co-Chair APPS-RG)* Reagan Moore, SDSC, San Diego, USA (Co-Chair PE-RG) Steven Newhouse, OMII, Southampton, UK (Co-Chair GESA-WG)* Mastoshi Ohishi, NAOJ, Tokyo, Japan (Chair IVOA) Fabio Pasian, INAF-SI, Trieste, Italy (EGEE/NA4) Guy Rixon, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Chair IVOA Grid-Web Services WG) David Wallom, Center for E-Research Bristol, UK (Co-Chair PGS-RG) Roy Williams, CACR, Caltech, USA (Chair IVOA Techinical Coordination Group) Note: * contacted but currently unconfirmed. C) Sponsoring Groups: Astronomy Applications Astro-RG conf Database Access and Integration Services WG DAIS-WG pend Simple API for Grid Applications SAGA-RG pend Preservation Environments PE-RG conf Workflow Management Research Group WFM-RG pend Production Grid Services Research Group PGS-RG pend D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of the workshop description to be put on the program. This workshop, jointly sponsored by the GGF and the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (IVOA - see http://www.ivoa.net). The meeting is timely in that the global Virtual Observatory (VO) projects are now deploying systems worldwide for operational and scientific use, where use of emerging GGF standards in or instance data management and security may have a vital role to play. Interoperability with existing grid infrastructures (e.g. TeraGrid, EGEE) is also a key topic, since VO centers or users must be allowed to take advantage of the power offered by computational grids. This meeting preceeds the next major IVOA interoperability workshop to be held in Victoria, Canada (15-19 May 2006). The programme would address issues of common interest to the GGF and the IVOA focusing on how a Global Virtual Observatory is being constructed using domain developed high level interoperability standards, but utilising lower level grid and grid service standards and concepts where relevant. The workshop will provide an opportunity for those involved in creating the interoperabilty standards required by the global Vrtual Observatory community to interact with those creating generic grid standards. The feedback from the exemplar science domain will highlight the opportunities and difficulties presented by take up of GGF standard compliant implementations. E) Programme We envisage that the meeting would be a 'Type two (refereed workshop)' - with a call for papers. The programme would address in 8 ~one hour sessions, the following areas: 1) Requirements for a Virtual Observatory: the Domain Perspective - Science drivers for a Virtual Observatory (Walton) - Capturing user needs from a middleware perspective (Newhouse) 2) VO Case Studies - Example VO implementations, UK, USA, Japan, etc - Experience with existing grid infrastructures 3) Registries and Resource Discovery 4) Data Management - including preservation of data and knowledge 5) Application Environments 6) Astronomical Workflows 7) Security - authroisation and authentication 8) The Production Virtual Observatory - logging and debugging - training and support - account management - software licensing Each session would include a period for open discussion F) Past History of hosting a similar workshop inside or outside GGF. The co-organisers have organised a number of successful workshops at previous workshops including most recently the 'Workshop on Grid Applications: from Early Adopters to Mainstream Users, Jun 2005). The IVOA regularly hold technical workshops - see www.ivoa.net G) Duration of workshop One full day - to be held in Tokyo at GGF17 (May 2006). The venue could be either the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, or at the GGF. H) Estimated # of participants 50+ attendees would be expected. I) Publication Plans --- please indicate if you have plan to publish the workshop result with a certain publisher. If left out we will assume that the workshop product will be a GGF Informational Document. The meeting would be published as a GGF informational document. ======================================================================== Dr N. A. Walton (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk ========================================================================
Nic, This looks excellent. There is now, however, a web site where this can eventually be uploaded. Real soon now, this URL should be available for GGF-17: http://www.ggf.org/ggf_events_communityInvolvmentProposal.htm but it is not at this moment. --Craig At 01:52 PM 2/22/2006, Nicholas Walton wrote:
Dear Craig
we in Astro-RG and the IVOA (see http://www.ivoa.net) would like to propose organising a one-day workshop at GGF17 in Tokyo. We have put together our proposal, and would be pleased to know whether this is acceptable.
If there is any more infomation that you require, please let us know.
Yours,
Nic Walton (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) (secretary IVOA)
Masatoshi Ohishi (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) (chair IVOA)
------------------
Proposal for a Joint IVOA - GGF (Astro-RG) WorkShop ===================================================
Tokyo @ GGF17 8 May 2006
Draft: Nic Walton 16 Feb 2006
A) Workshop Title
Building a Global Virtual Observatory for Astronomy - Grid Standards and their Relevance in Use
B) Proposed workshop organizer names and affiliations (possibly incl. review committee for type 2). Be sure to identify yourself if you are a chair of an existing RG/WG.
Nicholas A Walton, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Co-Chair Astro-RG) Chenzhou Cui, National Astronomical Observatory, China Neil Geddes, NGS, RAL, UK Thilo Kielmann, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, NL (Co-Chair APPS-RG)* Reagan Moore, SDSC, San Diego, USA (Co-Chair PE-RG) Steven Newhouse, OMII, Southampton, UK (Co-Chair GESA-WG)* Mastoshi Ohishi, NAOJ, Tokyo, Japan (Chair IVOA) Fabio Pasian, INAF-SI, Trieste, Italy (EGEE/NA4) Guy Rixon, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Chair IVOA Grid-Web Services WG) David Wallom, Center for E-Research Bristol, UK (Co-Chair PGS-RG) Roy Williams, CACR, Caltech, USA (Chair IVOA Techinical Coordination Group)
Note: * contacted but currently unconfirmed.
C) Sponsoring Groups:
Astronomy Applications Astro-RG conf Database Access and Integration Services WG DAIS-WG pend Simple API for Grid Applications SAGA-RG pend Preservation Environments PE-RG conf Workflow Management Research Group WFM-RG pend Production Grid Services Research Group PGS-RG pend
D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of the workshop description to be put on the program.
This workshop, jointly sponsored by the GGF and the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (IVOA - see http://www.ivoa.net). The meeting is timely in that the global Virtual Observatory (VO) projects are now deploying systems worldwide for operational and scientific use, where use of emerging GGF standards in or instance data management and security may have a vital role to play. Interoperability with existing grid infrastructures (e.g. TeraGrid, EGEE) is also a key topic, since VO centers or users must be allowed to take advantage of the power offered by computational grids. This meeting preceeds the next major IVOA interoperability workshop to be held in Victoria, Canada (15-19 May 2006).
The programme would address issues of common interest to the GGF and the IVOA focusing on how a Global Virtual Observatory is being constructed using domain developed high level interoperability standards, but utilising lower level grid and grid service standards and concepts where relevant.
The workshop will provide an opportunity for those involved in creating the interoperabilty standards required by the global Vrtual Observatory community to interact with those creating generic grid standards. The feedback from the exemplar science domain will highlight the opportunities and difficulties presented by take up of GGF standard compliant implementations.
E) Programme
We envisage that the meeting would be a 'Type two (refereed workshop)' - with a call for papers.
The programme would address in 8 ~one hour sessions, the following areas:
1) Requirements for a Virtual Observatory: the Domain Perspective - Science drivers for a Virtual Observatory (Walton) - Capturing user needs from a middleware perspective (Newhouse)
2) VO Case Studies - Example VO implementations, UK, USA, Japan, etc - Experience with existing grid infrastructures
3) Registries and Resource Discovery
4) Data Management - including preservation of data and knowledge
5) Application Environments
6) Astronomical Workflows
7) Security - authroisation and authentication
8) The Production Virtual Observatory - logging and debugging - training and support - account management - software licensing
Each session would include a period for open discussion
F) Past History of hosting a similar workshop inside or outside GGF.
The co-organisers have organised a number of successful workshops at previous workshops including most recently the 'Workshop on Grid Applications: from Early Adopters to Mainstream Users, Jun 2005).
The IVOA regularly hold technical workshops - see www.ivoa.net
G) Duration of workshop
One full day - to be held in Tokyo at GGF17 (May 2006). The venue could be either the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, or at the GGF.
H) Estimated # of participants
50+ attendees would be expected.
I) Publication Plans --- please indicate if you have plan to publish the workshop result with a certain publisher. If left out we will assume that the workshop product will be a GGF Informational Document.
The meeting would be published as a GGF informational document.
======================================================================== Dr N. A. Walton (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw@ast.cam.ac.uk ========================================================================
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Craig Lee -
Masatoshi OHISHI -
Nicholas Walton -
Satoshi Matsuoka