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I note that portals meeting at GGF15 drew about 15 people (in a room that could seat 100,000) The portals workshop at SC05 (on the slightly unattractive friday) drew 60 people and its success I believe is motivating that group to continue outside GGF next year with an SC06 workshop. Portals (GCE) is still alive at GGF but it is not perhaps flourishing in the way we would like.
In general we still are not attracting some of the (research) communities that used to be at GGF.
-- : : Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
+++++++++++++++++++ Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development Global Grid Forum wulf@ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466
So meeting outside GGF is perhaps not necessarily a bad thing if it enables the group to make vibrant progress with a meeting cadence and locations that meet the group's needs. What are the group's needs? Do they need standards or just community? If they primariliy need f2f time to do the necessary coordination, etc., this could be done at other meetings, such as SC, rather than having to make "yet another trip" to GGF. What we do want to keep, however, is a strong connection with the group; where they do come in and collaborate with GGF sessions, etc., from time to time. Does GCE have something against GGF, or is it just that the GGF meeting cadence, etc., does not generally meet their needs? --Craig At 11:59 AM 11/21/2005, Julie Wulf-Knoerzer wrote:
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I note that portals meeting at GGF15 drew about 15 people (in a room that could seat 100,000) The portals workshop at SC05 (on the slightly unattractive friday) drew 60 people and its success I believe is motivating that group to continue outside GGF next year with an SC06 workshop. Portals (GCE) is still alive at GGF but it is not perhaps flourishing in the way we would like.
In general we still are not attracting some of the (research) communities that used to be at GGF.
-- : : Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
+++++++++++++++++++ Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development Global Grid Forum wulf@ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466
How many folks were at the Science Gateways (portals by another name) workshop? I thought a lot more than 15 (heck more than 15 people were presenting at it). Part of the problem I see with some groups at GGF (GCE being one of them) is that they have no real targets or goals that they are pursuing together. What are they trying to *accomplish* by meeting? Groups that just discuss things tend to dwindle pretty quickly (and GCE isn't alone in that). CeC On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Julie Wulf-Knoerzer wrote:
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I note that portals meeting at GGF15 drew about 15 people (in a room that could seat 100,000) The portals workshop at SC05 (on the slightly unattractive friday) drew 60 people and its success I believe is motivating that group to continue outside GGF next year with an SC06 workshop. Portals (GCE) is still alive at GGF but it is not perhaps flourishing in the way we would like.
In general we still are not attracting some of the (research) communities that used to be at GGF.
-- : : Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http:// www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
+++++++++++++++++++ Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development Global Grid Forum wulf@ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466
hi folks, the science gateways workshop at ggf14 had hundreds. it was a big hit. the ggf15 event was a bust because it more tutorial and not well advertised. the Sc05 event was well advertised among the community and it was a workshop. i think the only conclusion to draw here is t hat a well organized wworkshop is always better than a not-so-well organized and advertised tutorial. dennis On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Catlett Charlie wrote:
How many folks were at the Science Gateways (portals by another name) workshop? I thought a lot more than 15 (heck more than 15 people were presenting at it).
Part of the problem I see with some groups at GGF (GCE being one of them) is that they have no real targets or goals that they are pursuing together. What are they trying to *accomplish* by meeting? Groups that just discuss things tend to dwindle pretty quickly (and GCE isn't alone in that).
CeC
On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Julie Wulf-Knoerzer wrote:
Note sent from address that is not subscribed to the list.
I note that portals meeting at GGF15 drew about 15 people (in a room that could seat 100,000) The portals workshop at SC05 (on the slightly unattractive friday) drew 60 people and its success I believe is motivating that group to continue outside GGF next year with an SC06 workshop. Portals (GCE) is still alive at GGF but it is not perhaps flourishing in the way we would like.
In general we still are not attracting some of the (research) communities that used to be at GGF.
-- : : Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http:// www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
+++++++++++++++++++ Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development Global Grid Forum wulf@ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466
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Catlett Charlie -
Craig Lee -
Dennis Gannon -
Julie Wulf-Knoerzer