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RE: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (REMINDER)
by Fogel, Robert 28 Mar '06

28 Mar '06

Here is material for 3rd bullet items on VOC/VAF. <<GGF VOC and VAF.ppt>> Robert Fogel Grid & Service-Oriented IT WW Strategy and Business Development Intel Corp 408-765-6404 > _____________________________________________ > From: Fogel, Robert > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:31 PM > To: cads(a)ggf.org > Subject: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (REMINDER) > When: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:00 AM-11:00 AM (GMT-06:00) Central > Time (US & Canada). > Where: 1-888-455-3044 and +1 210 839 8611, Passcode: 94172 > > (3/27) - Agenda below > (3/14) - Added international call-in info. > (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly > meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for > our meeting. > > Agenda: > * GGF17 update (Dennis Gannon) > * Review of GGF17 content and unfilled sessions > * Review roadmap/plan for VOC and VAF at GGF17, GGF18 and beyond. > Also, introduce new concept of EKF > * GGF18 Community program

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FW: Updated: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER)
by Steve Crumb 28 Mar '06

28 Mar '06

Robert was traveling today, so I'm not sure whether he will get out an agenda prior to tomorrow's call or not. Below is the dial-in information for the call tomorrow. I'm sure the European folks have made the appropriate adjustment for their Daylight Savings. Talk to everyone tomorrow. Tuesday, March 28, 8:00 AM US Pacific Time Dialin: 888-455-3044 Int'l: 210-839-8611 Passcode: 94172 Agenda TBD. Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: Fogel, Robert [mailto:robert.fogel@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:57 AM To: cads(a)ggf.org; Steve Crumb; Replogle, Joel (GGF) Subject: Updated: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER) When: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:00 AM-9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: 1-888-455-3044 and +1 210 839 8611, Passcode: 94172, *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting. (3/14) - Added international call-in info.

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Re: [cads] RE: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (AGENDA and ATTACHMENTS)
by Craig Lee 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

All, Below are my (cleaned-up) notes on this morning's Community Council telecon after Bob F. and others had to jump off. Please correct if there are inaccuracies or omissions. --Craig March 14 Telecon: (After Fogel and others had to jump off) In concluding the discussion of GGF-17 content, WG proposed that the major grid projects, e.g., the ones involved in Catlett's GIN efforts, should be invited periodically to present their work, progress and issues to GGF. (A single project should be invited to present every GGF, but rather every few meetings or perhaps once a yearf. We could perhaps establish a practice of letting a major grid project brief once a year.) After discussion of GGF-17 content, we discussed the VOC (Voice of Community) and VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) concepts. While these concepts and community groups have different focii, they are in fact related. While we usually talk about connecting user groups and standard producers, GF argued that we need to connect user groups <=> vendors <=> standards producers It was proposed that we organize these VAF/VOC meetings around specific themes, e.g., Interoperability (being done by GIN) Industries (Bio-IT, Auto, Pharma, Telecom) Functionality (job submission, file transfer being two major ones) "Does the Emporer Have Any Clothes" (Hype management for groups not realizing expected benefits) GF proposed a meeting on Job Submission motivated by the recent MS HPC document circulated at GGF-16. This could include presentations by both large grid projects _and_ vendors, e.g., Univa, IBM, MS, DataSynapse, OMII, China National Grid, NaReGI, EGEE ... others? Such a meeting should be attended by all types of users, especially representatives of major industries wanting to investigate grids, e.g., Cheryl Dondinger of SAS. Similar efforts could be done around industries, e.g., Telecom. With the progress in the Telecom group and interactions with ITU-T, RC will gauge interest in a meeting w/ Japanese Telecoms and other regional telecoms, e.g., China, Singapore, Korea. (He will most likely go through local contacts like Satoshi M. and Satoshi S.) GF suggested strategy: Make a list of such topics and send to targeted people from all important groups. We should coordinate among ourselves such that each targeted person only gets one email from a known colleague (whose email they will actually read and respond to!). While there is definite interest in pursuing this approach, we need a cognizant individual to spearhead the effort. CL will brief the use case analysis effort at the next telecon.

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Updated: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER)
by Fogel, Robert 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

When: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:00 AM-9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: 1-888-455-3044 and +1 210 839 8611, Passcode: 94172, *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting. (3/14) - Added international call-in info.

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Updated: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER)
by Fogel, Robert 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

When: Occurs every 2 weeks on Tuesday effective 10/11/2005 from 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: 1-888-455-3044 and +1 210 839 8611, Passcode: 94172, *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting. (3/14) - Added international call-in info.

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Re: [cads] GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER)
by Fogel, Robert 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

Please provide any missing info on objectives and update on GGF17. Thx -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Gannon [mailto:gannon@cs.indiana.edu] Sent: Tue Mar 14 05:47:08 2006 To: Fogel, Robert Cc: cads(a)ggf.org Subject: Re: [cads] GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER) hi all, i will need to miss the call again. i am at a teragrid management meeting. dennis On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Fogel, Robert wrote: > When: Occurs every 2 weeks on Tuesday effective 10/11/2005 from 8:00 AM to 9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. > Where: 1-888-455-3044, Passcode: 94172 > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting. >

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RE: [cads] RE: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (AGENDA and ATTACHMENTS)
by David De Roure 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

Hi - I just wanted to reiterate my recurring apology as I have a class on Tuesday afternoons which conflicts with the call. This applies all this semester but I'll make an appearance during the easter break in April! -- Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-cads(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-cads@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Fogel, Robert Sent: 14 March 2006 05:43 To: cads(a)ggf.org; Steve Crumb; Replogle, Joel (GGF) Subject: [cads] RE: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (AGENDA and ATTACHMENTS) AGENDA: * New Opens * Carry-overs from previous calls (ref attached minutes) * GGF17 update and Community content * Community objectives (refer to the attached for material). Need to be complete, final and executing by GGF17 Robert Fogel GGF (Global Grid Forum) Community Vice-Chairman Intel Corp, Worldwide Director of Grid Strategy and Business Development 408-765-6404 _____________________________________________ From: Fogel, Robert Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:31 PM To: cads(a)ggf.org; Steve Crumb; Replogle, Joel (GGF) Subject: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER) When: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:00 AM-9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: 1-888-455-3044, Passcode: 94172 (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting.

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RE: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (AGENDA and ATTACHMENTS)
by Fogel, Robert 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

AGENDA: * New Opens * Carry-overs from previous calls (ref attached minutes) * GGF17 update and Community content * Community objectives (refer to the attached for material). Need to be complete, final and executing by GGF17 Robert Fogel GGF (Global Grid Forum) Community Vice-Chairman Intel Corp, Worldwide Director of Grid Strategy and Business Development 408-765-6404 _____________________________________________ From: Fogel, Robert Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:31 PM To: cads(a)ggf.org; Steve Crumb; Replogle, Joel (GGF) Subject: GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (PLACEHOLDER) When: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:00 AM-9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: 1-888-455-3044, Passcode: 94172 (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly meeting. Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for our meeting.

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GGF Community Bi-Weekly Call (CALL FOR AGENDA ITEMS FOR 3/14)
by Fogel, Robert 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

All Community ADs, Please send any agenda items and opens ASAP that you want to address for our call on 3/14. I will publish a aggregate agenda and send materials to review prior to our call. It is very important that you attend this call in order to move the Community objectives forward. Since most Community Areas have two ADs, please ensure that at least one of you is able to attend. Please let me know if neither AD can attend; however, in this case, please provide input as per to-be-sent agenda. Thank you. Robert Fogel GGF (Global Grid Forum) Community Vice-Chairman Intel Corp, Worldwide Director of Grid Strategy and Business Development 408-765-6404

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Following up on the call today
by Robert Cohen 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Hi, Sorry for the weird noises on my end. My cab driver nearly rearended the car in front of us in the snow in Geneva. The main areas I can work on would be around continuing some of the aspects of the Athens discussion on moving to collaboration in "production grids." The main way to do this would be to work with the commercial firms that have participated in GGF's previously who have interesting customer adoptions. In Japan, the best bet for this would be to work through Kato-san, one of the keynote speakers in Boston. His firm, Engineous, has some of the more interesting auto, aerospace and heavy machinery/power equipment customers in Japan. Some of these clients could certainly talk about the challenges of collaboration, one of the themes in moving to production grids that we discussed in Athens. A series of panels might include commercial grids and illustrations of research production grids supported by the Japanese and Chinese government. I also proposed a roundtable after this. I think this could lead to a broader discussion, but it is a format we have not used. I would propose three customers, two software vendors, one or two standards participants. I think these two efforts would support efforts to get the attention of more vendors and commercial users. It may also be possible to go to IBM, Hitachi, Fujitsu, NEC, Oracle and others to suggest customers that they believe illustrate some of the themes we would like to discuss. I doubt this could be a vendor forum because firms would be reticient about criticizing their main vendors. Sekiguchi, I and others know the people to contact. If we do a VAF, we would be more likely to get IBM, the Japanese vendors, SAS, and Platform. The big question is whether we could get some of the firms that are not so convinced GGF offers them much, such as Datasynapse. Bob Steve Crumb wrote: > Community Council Members, > > Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in > Athens) and > has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). > > Robert would like us to discuss the following: > > 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees > that we > need to target, then propose content from each area to target those > attendees. > > 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. > finance, > research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to > write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to > identify > what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, > drive into stds, etc. > > 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to > target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this > for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is > and > the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and > issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. > > 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps > for > each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. > > If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll > put it > on the agenda. > > The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: > > US: 888-455-3044 > Intl: 210-839-8611 > Pass Coode: 34743 > > By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a > replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. > > > Thanks, > > Steve Crumb > Executive Director, GGF > scrumb(a)ggf.org > +1 630-252-8610 > +1 630-915-3324 (cell) > > > > > >

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