February 2006 - cads - lists.ogf.org

Following up on the call today
by Robert Cohen 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Hi, Sorry for the weird noises on my end. My cab driver nearly rearended the car in front of us in the snow in Geneva. The main areas I can work on would be around continuing some of the aspects of the Athens discussion on moving to collaboration in "production grids." The main way to do this would be to work with the commercial firms that have participated in GGF's previously who have interesting customer adoptions. In Japan, the best bet for this would be to work through Kato-san, one of the keynote speakers in Boston. His firm, Engineous, has some of the more interesting auto, aerospace and heavy machinery/power equipment customers in Japan. Some of these clients could certainly talk about the challenges of collaboration, one of the themes in moving to production grids that we discussed in Athens. A series of panels might include commercial grids and illustrations of research production grids supported by the Japanese and Chinese government. I also proposed a roundtable after this. I think this could lead to a broader discussion, but it is a format we have not used. I would propose three customers, two software vendors, one or two standards participants. I think these two efforts would support efforts to get the attention of more vendors and commercial users. It may also be possible to go to IBM, Hitachi, Fujitsu, NEC, Oracle and others to suggest customers that they believe illustrate some of the themes we would like to discuss. I doubt this could be a vendor forum because firms would be reticient about criticizing their main vendors. Sekiguchi, I and others know the people to contact. If we do a VAF, we would be more likely to get IBM, the Japanese vendors, SAS, and Platform. The big question is whether we could get some of the firms that are not so convinced GGF offers them much, such as Datasynapse. Bob Steve Crumb wrote: > Community Council Members, > > Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in > Athens) and > has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). > > Robert would like us to discuss the following: > > 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees > that we > need to target, then propose content from each area to target those > attendees. > > 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. > finance, > research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to > write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to > identify > what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, > drive into stds, etc. > > 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to > target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this > for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is > and > the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and > issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. > > 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps > for > each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. > > If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll > put it > on the agenda. > > The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: > > US: 888-455-3044 > Intl: 210-839-8611 > Pass Coode: 34743 > > By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a > replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. > > > Thanks, > > Steve Crumb > Executive Director, GGF > scrumb(a)ggf.org > +1 630-252-8610 > +1 630-915-3324 (cell) > > > > > >

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RE: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT
by Steve Crumb 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

New Passcode is: 94172 Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Crumb [mailto:scrumb@ggf.org] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:37 AM To: 'ccgt(a)ggf.org' Subject: FW: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT Sorry, I fat fingered the ccgt email address. See below. Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Crumb [mailto:scrumb@ggf.org] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:32 AM To: cads(a)ggf.org; ccgt(a)ggf.rog Subject: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT Community Council Members, Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in Athens) and has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). Robert would like us to discuss the following: 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees that we need to target, then propose content from each area to target those attendees. 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. finance, research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, drive into stds, etc. 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps for each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll put it on the agenda. The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: US: 888-455-3044 Intl: 210-839-8611 Pass Coode: 34743 By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell)

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RE: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT
by Steve Crumb 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Sorry for the dial-in confusion. We're working it now. Stay tuned. Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Crumb [mailto:scrumb@ggf.org] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:37 AM To: 'ccgt(a)ggf.org' Subject: FW: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT Sorry, I fat fingered the ccgt email address. See below. Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Crumb [mailto:scrumb@ggf.org] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:32 AM To: cads(a)ggf.org; ccgt(a)ggf.rog Subject: Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT Community Council Members, Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in Athens) and has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). Robert would like us to discuss the following: 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees that we need to target, then propose content from each area to target those attendees. 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. finance, research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, drive into stds, etc. 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps for each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll put it on the agenda. The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: US: 888-455-3044 Intl: 210-839-8611 Pass Coode: 34743 By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell)

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Re: [cads] Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT
by David De Roure 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Me too i'm afraid - I am currently in Austria, heading for France for the W3C tech plenary. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Gannon [mailto:gannon@cs.indiana.edu] Sent: Tue Feb 28 12:00:07 2006 To: Steve Crumb Cc: cads(a)ggf.org; ccgt(a)ggf.rog Subject: Re: [cads] Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT hi Steve and community people, i have to miss todays call too. i have a meeting to finalize some grant proposals. (this week we have six grant proposals going out and this has been my complete life for the entire month of feb.) by monday i will be back working on ggf17 in a big way. however, i will need lots of help from the rest of you, so i will be looking for the notes for this meeting. dennis On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Steve Crumb wrote: > Community Council Members, > > Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in Athens) and > has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). > > Robert would like us to discuss the following: > > 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees that we > need to target, then propose content from each area to target those > attendees. > > 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. finance, > research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to > write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to identify > what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, > drive into stds, etc. > > 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to > target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this > for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is and > the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and > issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. > > 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps for > each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. > > If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll put it > on the agenda. > > The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: > > US: 888-455-3044 > Intl: 210-839-8611 > Pass Coode: 34743 > > By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a > replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. > > > Thanks, > > Steve Crumb > Executive Director, GGF > scrumb(a)ggf.org > +1 630-252-8610 > +1 630-915-3324 (cell) > > > > >

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Community Call Tuesday, 10am US CT
by Steve Crumb 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Community Council Members, Robert is traveling this week (penance for being gone a week in Athens) and has asked that I help with the Community Call tomorrow (Tuesday). Robert would like us to discuss the following: 1. GGF17 Community content. I identify the key community attendees that we need to target, then propose content from each area to target those attendees. 2. VOCs EU groups for GGF17. Which ones do we want to target, e.g. finance, research/academic, etc. Who will own driving each for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for VOCs (maybe one charter for all VOCs) to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify requirements and use cases, drive into stds, etc. 3. VAF (Vendor Adoption Forum) for GGF17. Which vendors can we start to target, e.g. MS, Platform, IBM, SAS, SAP, etc. Who will own driving this for GGF17. We need to write simple charter for to identify what it is and the objectives, e.g. identify key vendor requirements for adoption and issues that impede adoption, then drive into stds, etc. 4. GGF16 report. Key takeaways of each Community session. Next steps for each session. Suggestions for GGF17 and beyond. If any of you have other items to discuss, please email me and I'll put it on the agenda. The call is at 10am US Central time and the dial-in information is: US: 888-455-3044 Intl: 210-839-8611 Pass Coode: 34743 By the way, Julie's last day was last Friday and I'm actively pursuing a replacement. If you know of someone that is looking, please let me know. Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, GGF scrumb(a)ggf.org +1 630-252-8610 +1 630-915-3324 (cell)

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Re: [CCGT] Astro-RG/ IVOA joint one day workshop: Proposal
by Craig Lee 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

Nic, This looks excellent. There is now, however, a web site where this can eventually be uploaded. Real soon now, this URL should be available for GGF-17: http://www.ggf.org/ggf_events_communityInvolvmentProposal.htm but it is not at this moment. --Craig At 01:52 PM 2/22/2006, Nicholas Walton wrote: >Dear Craig > >we in Astro-RG and the IVOA (see http://www.ivoa.net) would like to propose >organising a one-day workshop at GGF17 in Tokyo. We have put together our >proposal, and would be pleased to know whether this is acceptable. > >If there is any more infomation that you require, please let us know. > >Yours, > >Nic Walton (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) > (secretary IVOA) > >Masatoshi Ohishi (co-chair GGF Astro-RG) > (chair IVOA) > >------------------ > >Proposal for a Joint IVOA - GGF (Astro-RG) WorkShop >=================================================== > >Tokyo @ GGF17 8 May 2006 > >Draft: Nic Walton 16 Feb 2006 > > >A) Workshop Title > >Building a Global Virtual Observatory for Astronomy - >Grid Standards and their Relevance in Use > > >B) Proposed workshop organizer names and affiliations (possibly >incl. review committee for type 2). Be sure to identify yourself if >you are a chair of an existing RG/WG. > >Nicholas A Walton, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Co-Chair Astro-RG) >Chenzhou Cui, National Astronomical Observatory, China >Neil Geddes, NGS, RAL, UK >Thilo Kielmann, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, NL (Co-Chair APPS-RG)* >Reagan Moore, SDSC, San Diego, USA (Co-Chair PE-RG) >Steven Newhouse, OMII, Southampton, UK (Co-Chair GESA-WG)* >Mastoshi Ohishi, NAOJ, Tokyo, Japan (Chair IVOA) >Fabio Pasian, INAF-SI, Trieste, Italy (EGEE/NA4) >Guy Rixon, IoA, Univ of Cambridge, UK (Chair IVOA > Grid-Web > Services WG) >David Wallom, Center for E-Research Bristol, UK (Co-Chair PGS-RG) >Roy Williams, CACR, Caltech, USA (Chair IVOA Techinical > Coordination Group) > >Note: * contacted but currently unconfirmed. > > >C) Sponsoring Groups: > >Astronomy Applications Astro-RG conf >Database Access and Integration Services WG DAIS-WG pend >Simple API for Grid Applications SAGA-RG pend >Preservation Environments PE-RG conf >Workflow Management Research Group WFM-RG pend >Production Grid Services Research Group PGS-RG pend > > >D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of the workshop description >to be put on the program. > >This workshop, jointly sponsored by the GGF and the International >Virtual Observatory Alliance (IVOA - see http://www.ivoa.net) The >meeting is timely in that the global Virtual Observatory (VO) projects >are now deploying systems worldwide for operational and scientific >use, where use of emerging GGF standards in or instance data >management and security may have a vital role to >play. Interoperability with existing grid infrastructures (e.g. >TeraGrid, EGEE) is also a key topic, since VO centers or users must be >allowed to take advantage of the power offered by computational grids. >This meeting preceeds the next major IVOA interoperability workshop to >be held in Victoria, Canada (15-19 May 2006). > >The programme would address issues of common interest to the GGF and >the IVOA focusing on how a Global Virtual Observatory is being >constructed using domain developed high level interoperability >standards, but utilising lower level grid and grid service standards >and concepts where relevant. > >The workshop will provide an opportunity for those involved in creating >the interoperabilty standards required by the global Vrtual >Observatory community to interact with those creating generic grid >standards. The feedback from the exemplar science domain will >highlight the opportunities and difficulties presented by take up of >GGF standard compliant implementations. > > >E) Programme > >We envisage that the meeting would be a 'Type two (refereed workshop)' >- with a call for papers. > >The programme would address in 8 ~one hour sessions, the following areas: > >1) Requirements for a Virtual Observatory: the Domain Perspective > - Science drivers for a Virtual Observatory (Walton) > - Capturing user needs from a middleware perspective (Newhouse) > >2) VO Case Studies > - Example VO implementations, UK, USA, Japan, etc > - Experience with existing grid infrastructures > >3) Registries and Resource Discovery > >4) Data Management > - including preservation of data and knowledge > >5) Application Environments > >6) Astronomical Workflows > >7) Security > - authroisation and authentication > >8) The Production Virtual Observatory > - logging and debugging > - training and support > - account management > - software licensing > >Each session would include a period for open discussion > > >F) Past History of hosting a similar workshop inside or outside GGF. > >The co-organisers have organised a number of successful workshops at >previous workshops including most recently the 'Workshop on >Grid Applications: from Early Adopters to Mainstream Users, Jun >2005). > >The IVOA regularly hold technical workshops - see www.ivoa.net > >G) Duration of workshop > >One full day - to be held in Tokyo at GGF17 (May 2006). The venue >could be either the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, or at the >GGF. > > >H) Estimated # of participants > >50+ attendees would be expected. > >I) Publication Plans --- please indicate if you have plan to publish >the workshop result with a certain publisher. If left out we will >assume that the workshop product will be a GGF Informational Document. > >The meeting would be published as a GGF informational document. > >======================================================================== >Dr N. A. Walton >(AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) >(Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) >Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 >University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 >Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw >Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw(a)ast.cam.ac.uk >========================================================================

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Re: [CCGT] Re: Astro-RG/ IVOA joint one day workshop
by Craig Lee 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

Nic, There is no specific form for workshop proposals -- just one or two pages that clearly describes the topic and goals of the workshop, the organizers, and the potential speakers, along with any other relevant information, such as other RGs and WGs that might be involved (or should be involved). Clearly we want to support the work of the Astro-RG and the IVOA, in addition to getting good cross-pollination with the rest of GGF ;-> --Craig At 01:11 PM 2/12/2006, Nicholas Walton wrote: >Dear Craig > >xmas has come and gone - and its back to the idea of a ggf17 workshop. i >think we have a week or so to get our proposal in. is there a pro-forma to >submit? > >Cheers, Nic > > >======================================================================== >Dr N. A. Walton >(AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) >(Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) >Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 >University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 >Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw >Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw(a)ast.cam.ac.uk >======================================================================== > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Craig Lee wrote: > > > > > Nic, > > > > We should definitely make sure this happens. It's not too soon to start > > planning. > > The official deadline for GGF-17 workshops should be a week after GGF-16. > > Did you want to structure it just as a set of watercooler talks, or did you > > want > > to try to get peer-reviewed talks with a proceedings? > > > > --Craig > > > > > > At 03:05 PM 12/12/2005, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote: > > > > >Hi Nic, > > > > > >Thanks. > > >Am forwarding to the communicy council so that it can be discussede ASAP. > > >The GGF17 program is yet to be formulated, but make sure it is on the > > >radar. > > > > > >GGF17 should be a pretty gigantic event being coupled with GridWorld > > >Tokyo. > > > > > > Satoshi > > > > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:57 +0000 (GMT) > > >Nicholas Walton <naw(a)ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > > >naw> Dear Thilo, Satoshi, > > >naw> > > >naw> as the astro-rg apps community, we'd like to organise a joint one day > > >naw> workshop in conjunction with the IVOA (see www.ivoa.net) at the > upcoming > > >naw> GGF in Tokyo (May 06). > > >naw> > > >naw> The purpose of this email is to ask what are the current > procedures for > > >naw> proposing such a workshop, and importantly deadlines for receipt or a > > >naw> request by the GGF. > > >naw> > > >naw> many thanks, > > >naw> > > >naw> Nic > > >naw> > > >naw> > ======================================================================== > > >naw> Dr N. A. Walton > > >naw> (AstroGrid Project Scientist http://www.astrogrid.org) > > >naw> (Euro-VO VOTC Project Scientist http://www.euro-vo.org) > > >naw> Institute of Astronomy Tel: +44 1223 337503 > > >naw> University of Cambridge Fax: +44 1223 337523 > > >naw> Madingley Road WWW: http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~naw > > >naw> Cambridge, CB3 0HA email: naw(a)ast.cam.ac.uk > > >naw> > ======================================================================== > > >naw> > > >Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor > > >Global Scientific Information and Computing Center > > > & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences > > >Tokyo Institute of Technology > > >Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan > > >Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu(a)acm.org, matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp > >

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GGF17 PC Conf call at GGF16
by Satoshi Matsuoka 12 Feb '06

12 Feb '06

Following the previous discussions and a mention by Mark, although Dennis is absent we might schedule a F2F update from the January, since most of the relevant people are here. The current status quo is that we have the PC candidates listed up, and it is up to Dennis (and me) to pick the folks. One subject of course is the GridWorld Tokyo overlap, as had been discussed as not so much a problem due to the different nature of the meetings. The tricky part in the logistics is how to have both Dennis (in the US?) and Sekiguchi-san's secretary, Yuko Oshima, in a trilateral meeting. If Sekiguchi-san could just represent himself without her, then a Skype, Polycom (I have brought a ViaVideo unit again) or a phone conf. call would be easy. If not, Yuko may have to stay up a little late... Logistically, I prefer Tuesday or Wed. afternoon or evening, which would translate to Tue morning or middday for dennis, and (late) night for Yuko. Satoshi (M) Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor Global Scientific Information and Computing Center & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu(a)acm.org, matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp

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IMMEDIATE ACTION: Vote on GGF/EGA merger LOI by 5PM Central US time today/Friday
by Fogel, Robert 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

ALL Community ADs, If you have not done so already, I strongly urge you to vote on the motion regarding the "GGF/EGA Letter of Intent to merge". Even though, approval/rejection only requires a supermajority, i.e. 2/3 of the GFSG who actually vote YES/NO (i.e. don't abstain); it may not require everybody to vote; however, it is still VERY important for your opinion to be heard, regardless of the outcome. ************************************************************************ ******************** * Voting closes today/Friday at 5:00 PM Central Standard Time (less than 9 hours from now) * ************************************************************************ ******************** To vote, goto: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224YGA6E5SA To view results to-date, goto: http://www.zoomerang.com/reports/public_report.zgi?ID=L22JHHETTA93 (PW: gfsg200601) Thank you so much for your work and valuable input in bringing this motion to a vote, Robert Fogel GGF (Global Grid Forum) Community Vice-Chairman Intel Corp, Worldwide Director of Grid Strategy and Business Development 408-765-6404

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