All, I think it is good to not have a workshop at GGF-15. Many groups have just one workshop a year and we have been having about three. As for the regular APPS session, the one 90 minute session sounds Ok. However, we need to think about how this session is perceived by the attendees. At GGF-14 our attendance at the APPS meeting was very low, since I believe that the meeting was perceived as a business meeting for APPS. While this has been the case in the past for most of these APPS sessions, I am not sure that new people are interested in attending a business meeting for a group with which they are not currently associated. Perhaps we should emphasize the "birds of a feather" aspect of the meeting -- as a place where application developers and users are encouraged to come and exchange ideas. Perhaps we should call this an "Interactive Application Developers and Users Forum or perhaps Application Developers and Users Round Table Discussion." It would be useful if we could kick this off with a 20 minute keynote talk by someone, similar to the talk we had at our GGF-14 APPS meeting, which unfortunately was not well publicized since it came up after the agenda had already gone in. In a sense the APPS Forum meeting would be like the discussion sessions at our recent workshops, with the keynote used to stimulate thinking and provide some useful ideas for the attendees. It would be useful to have both the keynote and the Forum aspect of the session publicized in the agenda. For the forum keynote I would suggest someone who is actively involved in developing an application -- perhaps one that is in at least an alpha or beta version so that they have some lessons learned. I also think it would be useful if this were a commercial application since we have had lots of publicity about various non-commercial applications over the years. Any comments, other idea or suggestions for a keynote speaker? tom On Aug 12, 2005, at 5:55 AM, Thilo Kielmann wrote:
Dear all,
having got no response to my previous mail, I assume there is consensus NOT to have a workshop at GGF15. (and by now, I assume, it is too late to organize one)
GGF office just sent out a call for session scheduling requests, so it is time to think about what APPS-RG wants to do at GGF15.
My suggestion would be to have one 90 minute session. Besides the 'water cooler' discussion, any other suggestions what we should discuss in Seattle? I assume, we should have a look into future (workshop) plans, too...
Cheers,
Thilo -- Thilo Kielmann http://www.cs.vu.nl/~kielmann/
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