All,
as requested I have added a SAGA-RG ststus report to our proposed
agenda. (see below)
Unless I get objections or further suggestions, I will request the
session accordingly early next week.
Regards,
Thilo
0:00 Opening, IPR, agenda bashing
0:05 Status update
- new charter approved
- document GFD.39, "Workshop on Applications and Programming
Tools" has been published
- other documents in the pipeline
0:20 Report from SAGA-RG: progress on simple Grid APIs
0:30 Open microphone:
Current Issues of Grid Application Development and Deployment
1:15 Planning of future activities (e.g. workshops)
- GGF14 (with Earth Observation community???)
- GGF15 ???
1:30 adjourn
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Thilo Kielmann http://www.cs.vu.nl/~kielmann/
----- Forwarded message from "Cox S.J." <S.J.Cox(a)soton.ac.uk> -----
> Dear All,
>
> We are finalising our schedule for "The Usable Grid Workshop"- see
> attached- and also the agenda for our session.
>
> If you have not already registered but will definitely be coming,
> perhaps you could drop Thilo and me an email so that we can get an idea
> of numbers and help us to ensure that our agenda/ workshop programme
> will address issues relevant and interesting to you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon
>
> Workshop Proposal for GGF13 (Seoul, March 2005)
>
>
> A) Workshop Title
>
> The Usable Grid
>
> We intend a type 1 workshop.
>
>
> B) Proposed workshop organizer names and affiliations (possibly incl. review committee for type 2). Be sure to identify yourself if you are a chair of an existing RG/WG.
>
> Thilo Kielmann <kielmann(a)cs.vu.nl> (co-chair APPS-RG)
> Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam
> Thomas H. Hinke <thinke(a)mail.arc.nasa.gov> (co-chair APPS-RG)
> NASA AMES
> Simon Cox <S.J.Cox(a)soton.ac.uk> (aspirant co-chair APPS-RG)
> University of Southampton
> Yoshio Tanaka <yoshio.tanaka(a)aist.go.jp> (liaison Asia-Pacific)
> AIST, Japan
>
>
> C) RG/WG that will be involved (including potential RG/WGs as well as RG/WGs up for approval). If you are proposing a workshop without being a full RG, please provide a separate RG submission info, including candidate RG name, charter, area, chairs, BOF descriptions, etc.
>
> Applications and Testbeds Research Group (APPS-RG)
>
>
> D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of the workshop description to be put on the program.
>
> The workshop shall address the tensions that arise around the
> usability of grid technology for application users.
> We intend to have two things:
> 1. presentations of "successs stories" and show cases of
> well-functioning technology (including demos)
> 2. panel discussions between application users, system administrators
> (providers), and middleware developers. The panel discussions
> should uncover some of the "dirty laundry" that is lurking under
> the shiny success reports. The three groups (users, admins,
> toolsmiths) are supposed to express their expectations in terms of
> "do's and dont's" to the respective two other groups.
>
> By having this workshop in Seoul, we intend to foster presentations of
> success stories from the Asia-Pacific area. We are seeking to
> invite a series of speakers that can put Asia-Pacific grid
> initiatives into the larger context of the "Global" Grid Forum.
> While Asia-Pacific should be represented well, also significant contributions
> from other regions will be sought.
>
> Especially for the panel discussions, we also want to bring in
> participants from other parts of the world, representing leading
> software developers and deploying organizations/projects.
>
> E) Potential speakers for type one (invited( and possibly two workshops. Any additional info are welcome including the title of the talk, their abstract, etc. In fact the proposed program may be put here.
>
> See above (D).
> Due to the extremely short time frame, individual speakers could not
> be identified yet, but we are very confident from our group history to
> assemble a very strong and interesting event.
>
>
> F) Past History of hosting a similar workshop inside or outside GGF.
>
> Prior to GGF5 in Glasgow:
> NeSC Workshop on Applications and Testbeds on the Grid
> organized by APPS-RG and GUS-RG (just prior to GGF5)
>
> At GGF7 in Tokyo: Applications workshop:
> What can be achieved with today's Grid technology (and what cannot)?
> organized by APPS-RG
>
> At GGF8 in Seattle:
> Workshop on Grid Applications and Programming Tools
> organized by APPS-RG and UPDT-RG
>
> At GGF10 in Berlin:
> Workshop on Case Studies on Grid Applications
> organized by APPS-RG, UPDT-RG, US-RG, and PGM-RG
>
> At GGF11 in Honolulu:
> Semantic Grid Applications Workshop
> organized by APPS-RG and SEM-GRD
>
> At GGF12 in Brussels:
> Workshop on Grid Application Programming Interfaces
> organized by APPS-RG with DRMAA-WG, GridRPC-WG, SAGA-RG
>
>
> G) Duration of workshop ? half day (2-3 slots incl. Breaks) or whole day (4-5 slots)
>
> whole day
>
>
> H) Estimated # of participants (if possible)
>
> 50 - 100
> previous workshops have been in this range of participants, depending
> on the attractivity of the location
>
>
> I) Publication Plans --- please indicate if you have plan to publish the workshop result with a certain publisher. If left out we will assume that the workshop product will be a GGF Informational Document.
>
> We will produce a GGF Informational Document, containing
> abstracts of the presentations and summaries of the panel discussions.
>
>
> Note:
> We are aware that we are lagging behind with the publication of
> reports from previous workshops. However, this has to be attributed
> (in large part) to GGF's editorial process and the odds of GridForge.
> At GGF12 we had personal communication with the new GGF editor who was
> very positive about us publishing proceedings and is very much
> understanding the special needs of these reports, compared to, for
> example, standards track documents. The first report (for the GGF8
> workshop) has now reached an agreed upon format and should be put to
> the final public comment phase every day now.
> As we finally have an agreed upon format, we can now produce the
> missing reports accordingly, and will do soon.
----- End forwarded message -----
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Thilo Kielmann http://www.cs.vu.nl/~kielmann/
Dear all,
I am happy to report another piece of good news concerning APPS-RG:
During our session at GGF12, we identified the issue that part of our
mission is to communicate feedback from the users to GGF's middleware
developer community, but we were missing a communication channel for
doing so.
During and since GGF12, Simon Cox and myself managed to convince GGF's
"powers that be" to implement such a communication platform. With a
lot of help from Craig Lee (thanks!!!), GFSG has decided to hold a
closing plenary at the end of coming GGF meetings (starting with
GGF13). Purpose of this plenary is mutual communication, highlighting
the most important/interesting things that could be achieved by the
groups and areas. (Also, GFSG wants to track progress against an
overall roadmap for GGF.)
This means that, whenever our group session concludes with important
feedback from users to the developer community, all we need to do is
convince our own AD's about it -- and we are on stage for a few minutes!
Having said this, I'd like to draw your attention to the GGF13
meeting, to be held in Seoul (Korea), March 14-17. (really soon now!)
APPS-RG will hold a workshop on "the usable grid", combining success
stories from the Asia-Pacific area with some hopefully critical
discussions between users and developers. Details will be announced soon.
Also, we will have a general interactive session. This one is what we
need to plan now. I have compiled a little agenda based on GGF12's
session agenda as follows:
0:00 Opening, IPR, agenda bashing
0:05 Status update
- new charter approved
- document GFD.39, "Workshop on Applications and Programming
Tools" has been published
- other documents in the pipeline
0:30 Open microphone:
Current Issues of Grid Application Development and Deployment
1:10 Planning of future activities (e.g. workshops)
- GGF14 (with Earth Observation community???)
- GGF15 ???
1:30 adjourn
I'd like to invite your feedback and suggestions. Currently, we are
basically open for every suggestion, both for topics for the "open
microphone" and for future activities -- or for whatever else might
be worth doing during our group session(s) at GGF13.
I am looking forward to your response.
All the best,
Thilo
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Thilo Kielmann http://www.cs.vu.nl/~kielmann/
