We are starting the conference now.... -Keisuke Keisuke Fukui wrote:
Here is an info. for the call tomorrow.
My applogies that I ran out of time during the last call. To have meeting time concise and more effective, I added time allocation for Agenda.
See you there!
-Keisuke
### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Apr 20 Tue 20:00 EDT/Apr 21 Wed 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-831-600-1000 (Santa Cruz, California) Participant Access Code: 7771111
### Proposed Agenda
1. Agenda bushing and roll call. (5min)
2. Date for F2F (15min) May 18 would be the fastest candidate for the meeting, considering the GGF guideline that call for four week advance announcement. It can be pushed a week or so, depending on the participants schedule. I believe that it is essential to get general agreement on how to create the Working Group draft of acs spec. Goal: Decide tentative dates and place for F2F.
3. Research updates on CDDLM, security, etc.(15min) Please report your findings on these, if any. Goal: Find the refinement to the current requirements description.
4. Issues list (30min) As Sachiko pointed out, it is worth think about what are the issues to create WG draft right now. Attached is my last post describing issues in my mind. Please raise your comments and/or bring up yours. Goal: Create an issues list with actions.
Sachiko Wada wrote:
Hi team,
Here is the proposed teleconference schedule from Keisuke.
Next call: Apr 20 Wed 20:00 EST/Apr 21 Thu 9:00 JST
If anyone has problems with this, please feel free to respond to this message.
# Keisuke, let us know the calling info.
By the way, I assume that we have agreed to cooperate to develop ACS specification but I don't think that we have agreed the process. I wonder how I can contribute to our work.
We are going to write up a first working draft by GGF14, late June. It is about time to take some concrete actions. Deciding who writes which part of the document is one way, but there may be some issues left that need to be discussed before starting to write. If there are such issues I want to summarize them first. (Keisuke listed up such issues previously and we have already been discussing about Naregi requirements, but do they enough?)
So, I'd like to hear your opinion about this at the next telconf. ... Does this make sense?
Regards,
Sachiko Wada
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Subject: Re: [acs-wg] For the WG draft of the ACS Spec. From: Keisuke Fukui <kfukui@labs.fujitsu.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:44:47 +0900 To: acs-wg@ggf.org
To: acs-wg@ggf.org
Folks,
As I announced I propose agenda for our discussions.
I believe we need to visit a number of issues and considerations prior to have a WG draft of the ACS specification, which includes:
- the new requirements from NAREGI PSE, - relationship to other GGF WGs, such as CDDLM-WG and planned WGs for Execution Management System, - collaboration with IUDD standardization group and - recruiting involvement from the European communities.
I will describe them in a bit more detail below:
a) the new requirements from NAREGI PSE - including source code to be compiled for each target platform at or prior to the deployment of the application. - storing compiled binaries for target platforms in the repository. - storing (caching) the input and output data pairs through the lifecycle of the multiple executions of the application. b) relationship to the deployment API and component mode being discussed in the CDDLM-WG. - 'addFile' interface in the deployment API looks to be a candidate contact point with ACS, for example, "register" interface of ARI. - where the ACS interfaces should stand in the CDDLM's lifecycle model. - other (expected) GGF WGs such as OGSA design teams. c) collaboration with IUDD standardization group - Archive standard will be output from IUDD standardization. How can we contribute to it, to archive the common format for the grid deployment. Probably we should discuss Grid specific consideration at ACS, then report our outcome to the IUDD group. - Repository interface standard for Grid system will be output from GGF ACS. d) recruiting involvement from the European communities. One of the comments I got after the sessions is that we should seek for the participants from European Grid communities since they share much with our usecase and scope. We need a research on this possibility. UniGrid, EGEE, omii, and more...
My plan is having a brainstorming on all of these agenda. Originally, it was planned to discuss about our plan including the above at ACS-WG#2 session. It turned out, however, more difficult to perform this at the presence of the audience explaining what is being discussed and with the limit of time. To do the brainstorming the items, we have options below:
- Tele-conferences several times, one or two hours each. - Face-to-face meeting probably one or two days. At the U.S. East coast or in Japan.
We can do either or both depending on our schedule, in addition to the regular mailing list discussion. Since we have not discussed the items at the GGF13, I hope we discuss on this as soon as possible. Can we have a tele-conference to talk about these next week? My proposal for the time is 3/30 Wed 19:00EST (3/31 Thu 9:00JST). Please respond if this works for you.
Also, please feel free to add agenda and give your feedback to the above. I hope that we are starting a great work from here.
-Keisuke