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Teleconference minutes - August 31
by Sachiko Wada 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20050831/en/1 Sachiko ====================================================================== ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Aug 31 20:05-21:20 EDT 2005 / Sep 1 9:05-10:20 JST, 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Tom Studwell (IBM) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Data transport with SOAP. Keisuke explained overview of SwA, related standards and his study about feasibility of adopting SwA in the "Create" message exchange. Material: d3Data transport with SOAP message.ppt The conclusion is that it is reasonable to adopt SwA for attaching AA document with "Create" message. Embedding base64-encoded data into SOAP message may also be used if the implementation does not support SwA. The topics may fall in implementation aspect rather than the specification, but it should be considered when designing the XML schema in the ARI. Also, we may include this information as non-normative description in the ACS draft. * Review of the proposed contents for section "3.1 Concepts". The WS-Word page format should be adjusted in letter size. Due to time restriction, we avoided skipped discussion on this. Action: All, to review the posted draft section 3.1 and make feedback on the ml by the next Wednesday. * Schedule for drafting a specification Keisuke proposed the approach to fill the placeholders in the current draft as much as possible toward the GGF15. Section 3.1 will be merged to the draft when approved. We will finish chapter 3 (Architecture) first, then go forward the following chapter. Action: All, to write their assigned part and post it to the ml. Action: Mike, to take care of security consideration chapter. * GGF15 DEADLINEs and sessions We agreed to submit request for two sessions on Wednesday, 5 Oct. (Done on 1 Sep, see Keisuke's post) We may have additional private meeting before the official session. * Wrap up, Next meeting Date: Sep 7 Wed 20:00 EDT/Sep 8 Thu 9:00 JST Calling #: will be announced later

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Instance Clarification
by Michael Behrens 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Could someone please verify the intent and meaning of "AA Instance" relative to web services.... Pete and I were drafting some content for the security section and ended up in a discussion on how to enforce different security policies for different AA Instances. This might also pertain to transport protocols as well since some transports are more secure than others and that might be specified somehow in the security policy. ACS currently returns an EPR (or WS-Name perhaps) as a result of a create operation. That EPR could technically be anywhere on the network, although most likely it would be on the same box as the ACS service. Is it expected that each AA Instance is a separate web service or would it be a part of and managed by the ACS Web Service? The question delves into the implementation architecture and the answer might impact the way the specification is written with regard to requirements. -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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Draft writing for GGF15
by Keisuke Fukui 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Folks, FYI, attached is the minutes for telecon when we discussed about the security description in the past call. -Keisuke

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Two sessions requested for GGF15
by Keisuke Fukui 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Folks FYI, As we discussed today in the call, I have made two requests preferring Oct. 5, and requesting avoidance with some relevant WGs I have in mind. I excluded 2, 3 and 6 from the candidate, but left Oct. 4 since I saw just 3 slots for a day and am concerned with possible collision with other WGs. If you need more strict avoidance for days, please indicate it. (Or you may try to update by yourself) Also to let you know is, even thought the policy describes a 45 min slot and a 90 min slot for two requests, many WGs request two 90s. So I just did the same, to avoid cutting out in the middle of session. Looks like so many requests are already there. http://www.ggf.org/gf/session_request/index.php Or if you sort with "Session Title" you will see ours first: http://www.ggf.org/gf/session_request/index.php?event=1&browse&order=5 -Keisuke

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GGF15 Sessions.
by Keisuke Fukui 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Folks, FYI, Perhaps you may have noticed, there is an announcement for GGF15 on the GGF Web site. Among them is a deadlines for sessions for GGF15. From http://www.ggf.org/ggf_events_chairinfo_ggf15.htm ... DOCUMENTS (for GGF15 CG/WG/RG Sessions) DEADLINE for submitting working drafts for GGF15 is Friday, 26 August 2005. SESSION SCHEDULING The DEADLINE for scheduling requests for WG/RGs is Friday, 2 September 2005. Also, there is an slot allocation policy explained. At this moment among the discussion of the drafting the spec, it sounds a bit too early what we can do in the GGF15 sessions, but here are some ideas for topics. - Introduction of the ACS (call for adoption of ACS.) - Spec. review sessions to cover, data handling or security, possibly with attendances from ogsa-data or ogsa-authz people. - Advanced use case discussion related to ACS, such as data replication, global-wide interactions, bare metal installation, etc... - Relationship to other standards. - Next step of ACS-WG. - Final draft spec review First three would be open audience session. Latter ones tend to internal discussions. One of my concern is how much we can prepare for these, especially if it is the presentation such as outreach or educational. I'd like to hear who are interested in leading the session for each. So depending on that we may end up with few sessions for internal discussion. Also, it is advised that each WG has two sessions at most in the new policy announced. We have two more calls to discuss about the GGF sessions. In the next and following calls, we would cover this. This is a reminder for the topic to be covered. > We agreed that we will skip the call for next week. > Date: Aug 24 Wed 20:00 EDT/Aug 25 Thu 9:00 JST > Calling #: will be announced later -Keisuke

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Agenda for the Call on Aug 31 Wed 20:00 EDT/Sep 1 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! * Watch out for the irregular call number. Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Lake Park, IA) ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. Data transport with SOAP. (10 min) Discussion toward the ARI spec. Updated materials are attached to this message: d3Data transport with SOAP message, SAAJ.ppt 3. Review of the proposed contents for section "3.1 Concepts". (10 min) The material will be posted later. Check if we can put this into the draft. 4. Schedule for drafting a specification (5 min) Check the status for the schedule. 5. GGF15 DEADLINEs and sessions (5 min) The DEADLINE for submitting working drafts for GGF15 is Friday, 26 August 2005. The DEADLINE for scheduling requests for WG/RGs is Friday, 2 September 2005. I have registered the latest working draft on Friday. We will keep updating this by GGF15. Check the proposals for sessions. See my previous post on Aug 17 in Japan time. 6. Updates (5 min) If any others,... 7. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 45 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Aug 31 Wed 20:00 EDT/Sep 1 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Lake Park, IA) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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Data transport with SOAP.
by Keisuke Fukui 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Folks, Here is my study about the data transport with SOAP, focused on the ACS Create request message. Please have a look at it and give your thoughts. I'd like to discuss this in the call tomorrow. -Keisuke

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Teleconference mintues - Aug 24
by Keisuke Fukui 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20050824/en/1 Thanks for your help taking a minutes, Mike! -Keisuke ====================================================================== ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: August 24 20:10-20:40 EDT 2005 / August 25 9:10-9:40 JST, 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) - minutes Tom Studwell (IBM) Peter Ziu (Northrop) - regrets Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - regrets ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Agenda We reordered agenda and pushed a few items to the next call since there was a request to cut out the call shorter. * The DEADLINE for submitting working drafts for GGF15 is Friday, 26 Aug 2005. We will send the latest working draft and keep updating by GGF15. Action: Mike, to send the proposal update for the spec. draft to the acs-wg ML by the end of Thursday. Action: Keisuke, to register (submit) the draft to the project page. Quote from GGF15 Chair Info: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Post drafts for discussion at GGF15 into your current drafts folder in your GridForge project. When you request a working session at GGF15 you will be asked for the url(s) that point to your draft document(s). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * The DEADLINE for scheduling requests for WG/RGs is Friday, 2 Sep 2005. We have two sessions, 45min and 90min. We agreed that it would be best to focus on meeting together to work out spec details, and the two sessions would be good for interactions with other groups. New proposals for sessions were not made. The joint sessions with OGSA spawn WGs, such as BES or data are among the candidate for joint session. We also can have private meetings in addition to the officially scheduled ones. The topic will be revisited at the next call. * OGSA F2F updates by Mike Reviewed OGSA F2F event, specifically the interactions with the CDDLM and the EMS (BES) representatives. Discussed the interaction diagram which was created as a sub-group during a break-out during the F2F. Mike will expand on this and show more interactions. Keisuke had some questions on it. Mike will add interactions to CSG and will clarify that provisioning service could mean CDDLM. * "Data transport with SOAP" in the agenda was pushed to the next call. Please take a look at it and be ready to discuss about it. * Updates and schedule for draft writing was skipped. * Wrap up, Next meeting Date: Aug 31 Wed 20:00 EDT/Sep 1 Thu 9:00 JST Calling #: will be announced later

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Another Interaction Diagram
by Michael Behrens 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

As follow-up to my previous e-mail regarding the OGSA F2F last week..... We developed the attached interaction diagram (and some others) the day after we discussed the various interactions between the EMS components, ACS and CDDLM. We could perhaps continue to evolve this diagram to ensure we capture possible interactions with the EMS and other components as they develop. FYI - a new version of Jude is out. Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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Agenda for the Call on Aug 24 Wed 20:00 EDT/Aug 25 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! * Watch out for the irregular call number. Dial-in Number: **** 1-605-528-8800 (Hartford, SD) **** ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. OGSA F2F updates (10 min) Find action items. 3. Data transport with SOAP. (10 min) Discussion toward the ARI spec. See the previous post from me titled as "Data transport with SOAP". 4. Schedule for drafting a specification (5 min) Check the status for the schedule. 5. GGF15 DEADLINEs and sessions (5 min) The DEADLINE for submitting working drafts for GGF15 is Friday, 26 August 2005. The DEADLINE for scheduling requests for WG/RGs is Friday, 2 September 2005. We can send the latest working draft and update by GGF15. Check the proposals for sessions. See my previous post on Aug 17 in Japan time. 6. Updates (5 min) If any others,... 7. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 45 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Aug 24 Wed 20:00 EDT/Aug 25 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-605-528-8800 (Hartford, SD) Participant Access Code: 7771111 P.S. I got a regrets from Sachiko for this call. -Keisuke

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