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Last call for Application Contents Service Specification 1.0
by Keisuke Fukui 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Folks in ogsa-wg, cddlm-wg and acs-wg, We, acs-wg, has come to completion of the ACS Specification 1.0 after discussions and reviews. This is the last call for comments before submission to the GGF Editor for publication. If you have comments, please get them to me by 9 am Japan time on Monday November 7. If there are no significant comments I plan to submit the document on Monday afternoon. Below is the link for the document: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/draft-ggf-acs-spec-1.0… Regards, Keisuke Fukui ACS-WG co-chair

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GGF16 minutes
by Sachiko Wada 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Hi team, Here are the minutes of the GGF16 sessions. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. They are also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/ggf16-minutes-session-… https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/ggf16-minutes-session-… Also, all the materials can be downloaded from GridForge: https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=147&category_… Thank you, Sachiko ====================================================================== GGF16 ACS Session #1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 14 13:30-15:00 EET 2006 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Overview of ACS Material: ACS Overview, Sample AA Keisuke gave a brief introduction of ACS specification and a sample application archive which contains AAD, CDL and JSDL. [Q&A] NAREGI: The sample AA includes only one binary. Can I include multiple binaries in a single AA? Keisuke: Yes. This is just a simplest example. * NAREGI-PSE presentation Material: NAREGI_PSEwithACS NAREGI PSE team introduced the PSE architecture, which implements an Application Pool based on ACS 1.0. The presentation included a short demonstration. [Q&A] Keisuke: I understand that the PSE didn't include JSDL as a part of the AA, because parameters are different for each submission of the Job. However, a template JSDL may be included in an AA so that user can retrieve it and modify it with job specific parameters. Keisuke: Is there relationship between AA instances? NAREGI: Yes, we maintain the relationship outside of ACS repository. Mike: Can I obtain the source code? NAREGI: Not yet. But the open source will be available at NAREGI site by next GGF. * Business Grid Computing Project Material: ACS sample implementation by Business Grid Computing Keisuke presented the overview of their implementation on behalf of Business Grid Computing team. No question. ====================================================================== GGF16 ACS Session #2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 14 15:30-17:00 EET 2006 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Detailed Discussion for Next Step Material: R2AD Vision Starting with Mike's presentation of his idea about ACS future use case, ACS next step was discussed in detail. Keisuke: Regarding to the slide 4, what is the typical use case for the "large complex multi-node system"? Mike: Executing parallel tasks across multiple grid systems. For example, video streaming service which processes the images on the fly. Keisuke: As for "Distribution Challenges" on slide 9, these challenges may be addressed by the other WG/RGs in GGF or existing technologies. For example, OGSA data team addresses data distribution and replication. NAREGI: We have a requirement to maintain relationship between single source code and multiple libraries, and we decided to keep the relationship information outside of the AA. Keisuke: Since the specification is expected to be composable with other standards/technologies and applicable to various systems, it is preferable to manage the relationship between AAs in domain specific way. Mike: My suggestion is adding meta data to AA, such as linkage and type of AA. In some case, conditional linkage will be useful. Keisuke: To specify meta data, we need to model the relationship based on use case analysis. When we find a appropriate representation for models or relationship, which covers diversity of the ACS enabled systems, it is the time the specification address to this. Mike: How about having placeholders in AA for the meantime? NAREGI: We are interested in which direction ACS 2.0 will go. Currently NAREGI PSE has the following plans: - Full Support of ACS V1.0 - AA management based on policy and role. Keisuke: The ACS-WG welcomes the feedback from NAREGI team or any other projects about what is the requirements and how they implement them on top of ACS Spec. 1.0.

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Skipping the acs-wg call this week.
by Keisuke Fukui 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

Folks, I'd like to skip the acs-wg call this week since I have a schedule for the regular time. Besides, I'm being tied up with some tasks in my company and is not ready for discussion. I got some potentially useful information for acs at GGF, but not ready to make use of it. After all, thanks again for your assistances to the successful sessions. See you next week! -Keisuke

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Presentation repository
by Keisuke Fukui (on the road) 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Folks, I have created new subfolder under the Document manager and named it as "GGF16 materials and minutes": https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=147&category_… There I placed the latest versions of materials to be presented. I'd like to keep them updated to share the latest versions among us. So if you have updated yours, please register it by yourself or ask me or Sachiko to do so. All the materials are privileged to "Member Access", which I expect only the registered member to the project is accessible to them. I will make them open to public after the sessions ended and contents are fixed. Please have them ready at your hand when you join the session remotely. As I mentioned before, I will not utilize glance.net this time ( I'm afraid that it may confuse the process at the session, under the situation that Sachiko and I need control the session by ourselves). Besides, ACS Spec. 1.0 for public review is accessible from the Public Comments page: http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment Looking forward to see at the session and hoping successful attractions of interests from the audience. Please empower us for it! -Keisuke

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Teleconference minutes - Feb 2
by Sachiko Wada 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20060208/en/1 Sachiko =============================================================================== ACS Teleconference ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 8 9:20-19:55 EST 2006 / Feb 9 9:20-9:55 JST 2006 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Updates and schedules - ACS Spec. 1.0 ACS spec proceeded to the *Public review* phase, which ends on 10 Apr. http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment We will discuss each comments on this telconf or ml, and reflect them to the spec after public review period finishes. * GGF16 session Below is the current plan for the session. - ACS-WG#1 Tuesday, February 14 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm Outreach presentation. 1. Overview of ACS (Concepts, Integration with CDL,JSDL, etc.) - 15 min. Keisuke will refine existing materials to a condensed form. Sachiko will make a presentation about integration with CDL, JSDL. 2. Outline of the ACS Specification 1.0 and call for comments. - 5 min. 3. Introduction of the NAREGI-PSE development with ACS. - 15 min. Keisuke got a presentation material from NAREGI PSE team, which will be uploaded to GridForge. 4. Introduction of the ACS sample implementation by Business Grid project. - 10 min. Keisuke got information from Business Grid team. He will sum up them to ppt style. 5. Questions and Answers - 15 min. - ACS-WG#2 Tuesday, February 14 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Detailed discussion for next step, public review comments. Candidate topics are: - Toward the deployment automation. - Integration with other OGSA services - Expected relationship with OASIS SDD TC Keisuke is asking Tom to present updates from SDD TC. Besides above, Mike has a plan to make a short presentation about his project. He will send the material to ml in few days. Phone bridge is is planed to be provided both session. Pete and Mike will join sessions. The session agenda may be subject to changes according to participants and other circumstances.

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ML delivery clogs
by Keisuke Fukui (on the road) 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

Folks, FYI, I'm not sure but I suspect the acs-wg ML delivery is clogged right now. Please include the message recipient explicitly in addition to the acs-wg ML if you have an immediate message for the time being. -Keisuke Keisuke Fukui (on the road) wrote: > Hi, > > Re-sending to you all. > I sent this to the acs-wg ML a minutes ago, but > I don't see them. > > Attaching the ppt ;-O > > -Keisuke > > Keisuke Fukui (on the road) wrote: >> Folks, >> >> At last I've arrived Athens after the 23 hour travel! >> On my way there, I picked the last overview slides and updated some. >> Please take a look and feed me back your thought for improvements >> or correction. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> -Keisuke >> >> Thanks in advance >>> 1. Overview of ACS (Concepts, Integration with CDL,JSDL, etc.) - 15 min. >>> Keisuke will refine existing materials to a condensed form. >>> Sachiko will make a presentation about integration with CDL, JSDL. >> >> > >

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Agenda for the Call on Feb 8 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 9 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. Updates and schedules (5 min) - "ACS Spec. 1.0" proceeded to the *Public review* phase! Our specification is now on the public comments page at GGF site: http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment The end of the public comment is noted as 10 Apr, 2006. - Other updates, if any,... 3. GGF16 session (10 min) Below is the tentative plan for the session. I'm still looking for more presentations for ACS-WG#1. // ACS-WG#1 Tuesday, February 14 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm Outreach presentation. - Overview of ACS (Concepts, Integration with CDL,JSDL, etc.) - 15 min. - Outline of the ACS Specification 1.0 and call for comments. - 5 min. - Introduction of the NAREGI-PSE development with ACS. - 15 min. - Introduction of the ACS sample implementation by Business Grid project. - 10 min. - Questions and Answers - 15 min. Location: Macedonia B http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=177 // ACS-WG#2 Tuesday, February 14 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Detailed discussion for next step, public review comments. - Toward the deployment automation. - Integration with other OGSA services - Expected relationship with OASIS SDD TC Location: Macedonia B http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=176 4. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 25 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Feb 8 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 9 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Iowa) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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Teleconference minutes - Feb 1
by Sachiko Wada 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Sorry for the late post... Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20060201/en/1 Sachiko =============================================================================== ACS Teleconference ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 1 9:10-19:40 EST 2006 / Feb 2 9:10-9:40 JST 2006 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Updates and schedules - Status of the ACS Spec 1.0 GFSG decided to proceed ACS Spec 1.0 to the public review phase, which will be due 60 days after announced. https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?aid=1696 * GGF16 session - ACS-WG #1 Tuesday, February 14 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm Outreach presentation. - Overview the ACS Specification 1.0 - Questions and Answers - Candidate reference implementations, assistance and feedback. Naregi PSE member will give a introduction of their use case based on ACS. Mike's project is not ready to present at GGF16. - ACS-WG#2 Tuesday, February 14 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Discussion about interaction with CDDLM, JSDL, and other EMS services. Keisuke and Sachiko are making a sample application archive. CDDLM team is also making sample CDLs. We will take them into the application archive and confirm consistency between CDL and AAD. * Next meeting Date: Feb 8 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 9 Thu 9:00 JST Calling #: will be announced later

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"Application Contents Service Specification 1.0" on public comments page
by Keisuke Fukui 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

Folks, as you may have noticed, our specification is now on the public comments page at GGF site: http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment -Keisuke

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[Fwd: [acs-wg] Agenda for the Call on Feb 1 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 2 Thu 9:00 JST]
by Michael Behrens 02 Feb '06

02 Feb '06

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [acs-wg] Agenda for the Call on Feb 1 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 2 Thu 9:00 JST Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:41:13 +0900 From: Keisuke Fukui <kfukui(a)labs.fujitsu.com> To: acs-wg(a)ggf.org Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. Updates and schedules (5 min) - "ACS Spec. 1.0" proceeded to the *Public review* phase! Greg Newby (2006-01-31 11:00:49) Moved to public comment. This will be due 60 days after announced. Authors/editors please seek people to make comments. https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?aid=1696 - Other updates, if any,... 3. GGF16 session (5 min) Naregi PSE member is interested in giving a introduction of their use case based on ACS. I will ask if Business Grid project has something to present there. Mike might have something to share from his consulting effort. I'm asking Tom about SDD. We need to have a plan for the #2 session. Current thought is either regular telecon style or joint session in terms of OGSA-EMS. Example AAD with CDL document is among the candidate for joint agenda. // ACS-WG#1 Tuesday, February 14 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm Outreach presentation. - Overview the ACS Specification 1.0 - Questions and Answers - Candidate reference implementations, assistance and feedback. Location: Macedonia B http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=177 // ACS-WG#2 Tuesday, February 14 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Detailed discussion for next step, public review comments. Location: Macedonia B http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=176 4. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 20 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Feb 1 Wed 19:00 EST/Feb 2 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Iowa) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) (703) 714-0442 (land)

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