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Skype/glance connection check
by Keisuke Fukui 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Folks, For those who are to join the ACS-WG sessions remotely, we will have the connection check time for both skype and glance, As described in the minutes of today's tele-conference. I hope the check will complete in ten minutes and prove that they can be used between the sites with reasonable performance. The proposed time for the check are shown below: Mar 13 Sun 22:00 (Korea) / Mar 13 Sun 08:00 (U.S. Eastern) Mar 13 Sun 23:00 (Korea) / Mar 13 Sun 09:00 (U.S. Eastern) Mar 14 Mon 07:00 (Korea) / Mar 13 Sun 17:00 (U.S. Eastern) Mar 14 Mon 09:00 (Korea) / Mar 13 Sun 19:00 (U.S. Eastern) Please pick one from the list and let me know it by the end of Friday here (Thursday in U.S.). I will announce the pass code for the check then. FYI, the sessions are scheduled as: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACS-WG#1: Mar 14 Mon 13:00-14:30 (Korea) / Mar 13 Sun 23:00 (U.S. Eastern) ACS-WG#2: Mar 16 Wed 11:00-12:30 (Korea) / Mar 15 Tue 21:00 (U.S. Eastern) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are to use glance for the ACS-WG#1. We are to use skype for the ACS-WG#2 for the substitution of the traditional call bridge. glance: http://www.glance.net/ skype: http://www.skype.com/ -Keisuke

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Teleconference minutes - 9/10 March 2005
by Sachiko Wada 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Hi, Telecon minutes attached. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if there is any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes_-_20050309/en/1 Regards, Sachiko Wada ====================================================================== ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Mar.9 20:20-21:50 EST / Mar.10 10:00-11:50 JST, 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes * Review GGF presentation materials. Topics will be: + "Enterprise Grid Appliance Operating Environment" - The term "Appliance" may remind another thing. (But no idea of any better word was presented.) Pete will add more explanation about the Grid Appliance. - NAREGI has similar concepts. Keisuke will provide more info. about this on the acs-wg ML. - A review by Tom or other SI people is desired where SI is referred in this presentation. + "ACS introduction" - It is almost the same as presented at GGF12 BOF session. Keisuke will modify it, perhaps shorten to fit to the time constraints. + "Solution Installation" by Tom - to be reviewed after being posted. + "Business Grid Project" - send mail to acs-wg ML if there are any comments or questions. - Keisuke will remove the word "OGSI" from the slide 3. * GGF13 Logistics. #1(March 14) - phone line is available - will try glance.net to share presentation http://www.glance.net/ (this may be difficult depending on the bandwidth we will get in the session room.) #2(March 16) - phone line is not available and will try Skype (IP phone) http://www.skype.com/ Keisuke will announce a schedule for connection check. * Schedule time in the sessions. The tentative time plan is shown below. Send comments or requests about the schedule to acs-wg ML. -------- ACS-WG #1 (Introductory session): 13:00 Opening salutation 13:10 "ACS introduction" by Keisuke 13:20 "NAREGI PSE and ACS" by 13:35 "Solution Installation" by Tom (remote) 14:50 "Enterprise Grid Appliance Operating Environment" by Pete (remote) 14:05 "Business Grid Project" by Keisuke 14:10 Q&A, discussion, wrap up, invitation to the ACS-WG#2 ACS-WG #2 (Detailed discussion): 11:00 Opening salutation 11:05 Collaboration with Solution Installation 11:35 Collaboration with NAREGI PSE development 12:05 Relationship to the CDDLM-WG and the emerging OGSA spawn activities 12:20 Next conference schedule, Wrap up -------- End of the minutes

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skipe
by pete＠ziu.net 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

It appears that Skipe is a P2P service, but though an intermediary Skipe server. I will look into it further. I am not sure there is anything to host here at ziu.net, except another peer. Peter D Ziu 703.883.5168 (o) 571.235.0208 (c) peter.ziu(a)ngc.com (o) pete(a)ziu.net (h) 5712350208(a)tmomail.net (sms)

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i'm here....
by pete＠ziu.net 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

It's a shame our telecon exited so quickly, is anyone continuing through email? Peter D Ziu 703.883.5168 (o) 571.235.0208 (c) peter.ziu(a)ngc.com (o) pete(a)ziu.net (h) 5712350208(a)tmomail.net (sms)

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Reminder: teleconf 3/9, 20:00 EST
by Keisuke Fukui 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Folks, We will have the third tele-conference tomorrow. Here is an info for the next tele-conf. Subject: ACS-WG TeleConference #3 Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005 Start Time: 10:00 AM Japan Standard Time End Time: 11:55 AM Japan Standard Time Dial-in Number: 1-831-600-1000 (Santa Cruz, California) Access Code: 358182 # We will use the new bridge from the last call. # Above time duration is for the reservation for the bridge. Agenda: (All of the below is straw man. Please add your agenda.) - Review GGF presentation materials. Topics will be: "ACS introduction" by Keisuke (to be posted) "Solution Installation" by Tom (to be posted) "Enterprise Grid Appliance Operating Environment" by Pete (posted earlier) "Business Grid Project" by Keisuke (to be posted) - Schedule time in the sessions. The tentative time plan is shown below. ACS-WG #1 (Introductory session): 13:00 Opening salutation 13:10 "ACS introduction" by Keisuke 13:20 "NAREGI PSE and ACS" by 13:35 "Solution Installation" by Tom (remote) 14:50 "Enterprise Grid Appliance Operating Environment" by Pete (remote) 14:05 "Business Grid Project" by Keisuke 14:10 Q&A, discussion, wrap up, invitation to the ACS-WG#2 ACS-WG #2 (Detailed discussion): 11:00 Opening salutation 11:05 Collaboration with Solution Installation 11:35 Collaboration with NAREGI PSE development 12:05 Relationship to the CDDLM-WG and the emerging OGSA spawn activities 12:20 Next conference schedule, Wrap up - GGF13 Logistics. Call bridges, IP phones for ACS-WG#2 (We got no line in the session room) Recruiting efforts and expected participants. etc. See you there! -Keisuke

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Grid appliance concepts draft presentation GGF13
by pete＠ziu.net 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Keisuke and Team, Attached is the draft presentation for discussion for Wed. I had hoped to get it done sooner, but things are a bit crazy. Do we know if Tom Studwell from IBM will be present? Peter D Ziu 703.883.5168 (o) 571.235.0208 (c) peter.ziu(a)ngc.com (o) pete(a)ziu.net (h) 5712350208(a)tmomail.net (sms)

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Teleconference minutes - 16/17 February 2005
by Sachiko Wada 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hi, Attached file is the minutes of our first teleconference. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if there is any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20050217/en/1 Regards, Sachiko Wada ====================================================================== ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 16 19:00-20:15 EST 2005 / Feb 17 9:00-10:15 JST, 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Thomas Studwell (IBM) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes * Who will be present at the GGF13 ACS-WG session? - Tom, Pete and Mike can't make it and will join the sessions from the over the phone. - Tom will host the telephone bridge. * How many ACS-WG sessions will be at GGF13? - Two sessions including an introductory one and a detailed discussion is agreed with. * How many materials will be presented? first session : introductory presentation - A short overview of ACS by Keisuke and Sachiko - A CDC use case (Business Grid Project) by Keisuke and Sachiko - An introductory presentation "NaReGI PSE with ACS" by guest speaker. NAREGI(National Research GRID Initiative) http://www.naregi.org/index_e.html - Use case/example by Pete and Mike (over the phone) - Introduction to Solution Installation by Tom (over the phone) 15 min for presentation + 5 min for Q/A (question/answer) is suggested as presentation time. second session : detailed discussion - possible topics are: - scope - requirements - collaboration to other standardization, other WGs - Tom will send his proposal agenda for detailed discussion. * WGs to avoid time slot conflict to the ACS-WG session. The sessions for the below two WG/BOF are among the important ones that we need collaborate closely and thus we should avoid time conflict. OGSA's are also important but it's hard to avoid conflict to them. We should try to keep up with OGSA remotely. - Basic EMS Service (*) (*) Identified as "OGSA - Basic Execution Service" after the call. - CDDLM * Collaboration with Solution Installation activities - Solution Installation is very inclusive and has broader scope than ACS. Since it is expected to be a universal standard for software installation, ACS will follow its specification for the archive format. We should cooperate with them and join their activities. - Solution Installation intends to describe an enterprise level solution. In that sense, it goes well with ACS scope. * Miscellaneous: - Tom has kindly accepted hosting phone bridges for the next call and ACS-WG sessions at GGF13. - Thank you very much!! * Next call Date: Mar 2 Wed 19:00 EST/Mar 3 Thu 9:00 JST Theme: Review GGF presentation materials Call #: Same number, same pass code. * Action: Send out the materials to mailing list before next call

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[Motohiro YAMADA <moto.yamada@jp.fujitsu.com>]
by Keisuke Fukui 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

I'm forwarding a bounced mail. -Keisuke P.S. Subscription request for Moto is now approved.

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OGSA EMS at GGF13
by Hiro Kishimoto 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi all, The OGSA-WG has three activities related to EMS; (a) Basic Execution Service API (b) Basic Execution Management profile (c) Full EMS architecture (including re-factoring) Expected charter BoF on March 16 is about activity (a). These API should have relationship with JSDL and WS-Agreement but this combination is expected to be discussed at activity (b); OGSA-WG session #4 "Basic EM profile" on March 15 (Tue) 9-10:30am. However, (a) and (b) are very basic and do not directly cover ACS or CDDLM. The ACS-WG has strong ties to activity (c) and it will be discussed at OGSA-WG session #7 "EMS architecture" on March 15 (Tue) 5-6:30pm. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Reminder: teleconf 3/2, 19:00 EST
by Sachiko Wada 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Tom, Pete, Mike, Keisuke and folks, As we agreed at the last meeting, we will have a second teleconf tomorrow. Date: Mar 2 Wed 19:00 EST/Mar 3 Thu 9:00 JST Call #: Toll Free: 1-800-497-2024 Toll: +1-719-457-3821 Tie Line: 650-3239 PC: 358182 # Tom, please let us know if there is any change in call-in info. Thanks a lot. It's my understanding that we currently have the following topics: 1. GGF13 session plan 1-1. Agenda We agreed on the agenda for the introductory session. - Tom, Pete and Keisuke will present their own use cases. - We will also have a speaker from the NAREGI project. But we have not yet decided the agenda for the detailed discussion. The quote from the minutes: +++++++++++ - possible topics are: - scope - requirements - collaboration to other standardization, other WGs - Tom will send his proposal agenda for detailed discussion. +++++++++++ 1-2. Time slot We have the following slot: - ACS-WG #1: 3/14 1pm-2:30pm (3/13 23pm EST/20pm PST) - ACS-WG #2: 3/16 11am-12:30pm (3/15 23pm EST/20pm PST) The problem is: - the #1 conflict with OGSA-WG#1 which are to attract the many. Keisuke's question is: - should we swap the time for #1 and #2, to attract more new comers? 2. Review GGF presentation materials Please post your presentation materials to this mailing list until the meeting if ready to be reviewed. Please respond to this e-mail if you have more agenda. Regards, Sachiko Wada

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